I used to have an iMate JAM, and am considering getting a wizard. The main thing I'll be using it for is GPS navigation with TomTom5, but the 200Mhz processor worries me slightly. Does anyone use TT5 with their wizard, and if so, what's the performance like. Are there any stability issues or is it choppy at all?
Prior I was using TomTom3 on my old Ipaq1940.
Now I'm using TomTom5 on my wizard and so far no problems.
Speed is ok. TomTom does not start up as quickly as the old one, but once it's running everything works fine for me.
Had some problems first with the installation: installation faild without any message but after inserting a bigger miniSD card (1G), Installation wored as it should.
Harald.
No problems here.
i installed Tom tom without a problem and it runs fine.
as it was previously said it takes a bit to startup but after that it is just fine. you can always overclock it when using tomtom if you want but i find it pretty usable and i'm still using one of the oldest Rom's. Therefore if you upgrade to a newer rom I really don't think you'll have any problem.
another tomtom user here and came from an axim x30 624mhz, as the people above have said it loads a bit slower and when it calculates a long route its not quite a fast but i was very impressed with the speed of it to be honest.
Hi,
I am using Tom Tom 5 on a Prophet and it works just as fast as the JAM. This is using a switch in Omap overclock to take the speed upto 240mhz. It will still run at the standard processor speed but it does slow down and lag sometimes.
Regards
honestly .... I'm not a fan of overclocking the Arm or any other CPU.
- system might get unstable
- Arm processor might get overheated
- battery consumption is higher
- guaranty might be lost on new devices if you fry your chip and they find out
But this everyone's own decision.
Works great for me. It does take a bit to start up, but after that it's as responsive as can be.
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All,
I currently have a Blue Angel and thinking of getting a Wizard. I would like to know is the CPU as powerful as the BA?
Also what is the Wizard like in terms or stablity and does TomTom 5.21 work?
Thanks
Msuk
Tom Tom
Tom Tom 5.21 definitely works. can't comment on processor speed between the two though. sorry.
BA: processor is 400mhz (roughly)
Wizard: processor is 200 mhz (roughly)
However, they are different processor types, and different operating systems. I just did this upgrade and will never look back. I mean, the Wizard is a hell of alot faster working around windows (provided you don't have too many apps running at once). The close button of SPB Pocket PLus ensures that.
The only area I notice the slowness in is media player. The Wizard struggles a little, but it has a smaller screen of the same resolution so you can run lower quality media without being able to notice.
Overclocking the Wizard to at least 240mhz is perfectly stable, is easy and makes alot of difference too! Gives it the extra kick it needs.
The main difference however is THE WIZARD WORKS! It's reliable, unlike the bug-ridden Blue Angel. You can actually use it as a phone and be sure it will recieve the calls (with sound unlike on the BA).
Also, I have only had to reset my Wizard once since I got it about a week ago! The BA needed resetting like 3 times every day at least, even after severe hacking!
Have never tried tomtom
-Mike
heres a review I did on the 2 of them. My wizard is the 8125, my blue angel was the SX66.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41161
Hope it helps.
Later; Lew
Just a question. Im interested in getting a Wizard, but am concerned about the 200mhz processor in this unit. Is it noticeably slower than the BA during normal use and during applications such as GPS? My BA isnt that quick either, but im hoping the wizard wouldnt actually be a downgrade in terms of speed. thanks!
Hi Trewang,
Does this review help?
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-wizard-en.shtml
It compares the Wizard against a Magician. However I can't vouch for the device itself having never used either.
From my experience, it depends. The Wizard is noticably slower than the BA doing some things, especially file operations, noticably faster than the BA with other things, such as network operations. The BA also runs 2003se while the Wizard runs WM5. You can't put 2003se on a Wizard but you can put WM5 on a BA and using that comparison, the Wizard will run circles around the BA in almost every way. I've found the Wizard to be a little sluggish when it first starts but after a while, it's as fast as anything else. It also helps when the novelty wears off and you stop trying to run your life, play full length movies and compute PI to the 10000th place at the same time and use it like it was intended to be used.
These days, raw speed means very little. The Wizard is based on a dual core processor while the BA is not. Wizard hardware is also considerably more optimized than BA hardware was. In addition, the phone itself is smaller and lighter and battery life has greatly increased. I got rid of my BA shortly after I got the Wizard because the Wizard really is so much nicer and easier to use.
I've got the TyTN and the P4350 now; I'll do some comparison and report back here.
Martin
Can you test the wi-fi reception of this device and compare it with Tytn's range(weak)? Thank you.
Very short : (longer review to come)
Although the P4350 has got a slower CPU (200 Mhz - 400 Mhz on the TyTN), it's working much smoother/faster than the TyTN. The rather annoying delay (although minor) on the TyTN when using the numpad in the phone is almost not detectable on the P4350.
Seems much faster graphics.
The Autoslide keyboard is wonderful! VERY VERY nice. The keyboard simply jumps open.
More to come; when I have the time I'm going to go more in depth with my testing, trying to stress the machine a bit.
So far I'm VERY satisfied! In my eyes it's a better device than the TyTN; it now fits nicely in my pockets (17 mm thick (TyTN 22 mm)). I ended up disabling 3G on my TyTN anyway due to the battery draining - so that the P4350 doesn't have 3G possibilities fits me just fine.
I'll be back ;-)
Martin
mine will be here tommorrow
chakra said:
mine will be here tommorrow
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We're waiting also for your review.
Hi all,
Had anyone tried skype on the Herald ?
How is it as compared to Hermes ?
Thanks
Have you tested divx with TCPMP?
btw skype is about to release version which run on 200mhz
Hi Pakiyabhai,
That is good news, have you got more details on the new skype -- such as the time frame ?
The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
Ok its exactly like my beloved old jam. only with a keyboard. the speed is the same, almost better than my tytn and treo 750v. the keyboard is loose compared to my tytn , kjam, and ppc 6700. the internet loads almost as fast as my tytn, i dont have 3g in my area yet. the screen is the best i have had yet except for my old universal (to big) i cant wait for the omni... there are not enough buttons even with ae button plus imnot quite satisfied. the keyboard is the best yet. and the wow factor is the best yet. ill talk more later
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The new Skype 2.2 beta is the version you're looking for. According to their FAQ it supports the 195MHz OMAP:
http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase&_j=questiondetails&_i=982
v2.2 BETA download
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/mobile/downloading_low_beta.html
I've been using it with my P4350 and it works great without overclocking. Just use the headset and close other programs before starting. [hint: HTC includes the Task Manager utility in the P4350 that closes apps properly when exiting; it's disabled by default]
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Hi Daguru,
Thanks for your reply & info.
How about the Wifi reception as compared to HTC Hermis ?
I was wondering if skype 2.2 requirement of 195MHz is the MIN
operation requirement will not be ideal in practical environment ?
Also I require more feedback on the new skype 2.2 beta with
HTC Herald on the voice quality, connection quality.
As this is very important consideration for me getting this
wonderful device and not HTC Hermes.
The general comment so far is that the Herald is as fast if not faster
than the Hermes even though the CPU Hz speed for Herald is half.
I wonder why ?
I had this impression that, some of the older approx 200MHz PDA phone
devices review have mentioned that during basic operation
e.g. sms, making call etc is too slow. Does Herald have such problem
i.e. keypress respond is too slow ?
Thanks for reading
Well I have had my herald for a few weeks now. It was going to be my primary device. but also two weeks ago i got hsdpa in my area. so I was playing with my three hsdpa enabled pda phones. but here I am a week or two later back using the herald again. I have the cpu set to 252 with omapclockplus . It is just so small and cool. It is slower than my tytn when going through the menu's. But it turns on quicker, answers the phone quicker. has better sound quality ( the phone) Voice command 1.6 works flawlesly over the headset with no tweaks right out of the box. it tells you who is calling through the blootooth headset. and is much more responsive..
that said the ram leaves much to be desired. I admit I have a tun of programs that i consider must haves. But on a fresh soft boot I have 19 mb free. about two mins later its at 15 and it seems to be hovering around 12 or 13. Ok so i have never had a low mem problem, but I like to have it there.
Hello,
I finnaly got mine too ;-) It's working fine with Orange FR, just need to find some GPRS parameters.
Also I just found this news:
http://www.vodafoneshop.de/shop/det...66&artikel_daten_id=3555&B_ID=243&I_ID=0&TD=1
Vodaphone released the Herald/P4350 as VPA Compact IV (with MS Direct Push & Blackberry support).
Nico
Tomorrow I'll get mine
I have installed a (legitimate since you ask) copy of tomtom NAVIGATOR 6 onto my MDA Vario II. The 4+ Mb programme resides in main memory and the Western_Europe map and everything else is on the 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD card. I have a Fuzion SiRF starIII bluetooth GPS receiver. tomtom's US website says the hardware and software are compatible, the UK site does not. The programme runs very slowly (it's not smooth as I have seen demonstrated on a Mio, which had a 312Mhz processor, but is stilted). Sometimes the machine locks up and I have to press the 'OK' button. When browsing the map, the machine struggles to process the picture. I ensure that there are no running programmes. What is the cause, please? Could it be that the hardware and software are incompatible?
just try to flash aku 3.3 to your vario. it will make ur phone work smooth and will not hang at all. then u will be able to run tomtom 6 perfectly
Rather than risk aku 3.3 issues I suggest you are probably right and there is soe sort of hardware issue. I have navigator 6 and TOMTOM BT receiver and hav absolutely no issues at all
I use TT6 on a daily basis and I can say that under WM5 AKU2.3 it used to hang very often when putting post code. I ran ok. After flashing AKU3.3 it works flawlessly. The same with WM6. Now it also seems to run a little bit faster.
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
silvino said:
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
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Welcome, but you are in the wrong place my friend. This is the HTC Hermes forum. This site is primarily for HTC devices. However here is Tomtom 6 for PPC phones (official tomtom site):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Mike
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
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yep this is the same on mine, disabled all but a few POIs and no or very rare freezes. if it does freeze up hit the hangup button and relaunch.
there was some hope with the Version 7 tomtom out soon that there would be a fix for the problem.
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ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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My Hermes is running with AKU 3.3 and my TomTom is 6.0.30
ok. i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on.
at least you will loose the anoying mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)
ok well the results your described i saw with the first tomtom 6 i used, im assumeing it was on 6.0.00 but i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but
it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on. I'm using that this week by mistake since my last hard reset but its been stable for me.
at least you will loose the anoying 6.0.30 mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)
I have been using windows mobile devices now for about 5 years,my first phone was an mda compact III which was excellent.next up was the Mda Compact 5 which also is a very capable device, might I ad these 2 devices were brilliant with the sat nav never missed a beat allways having plenty of satalites ,my main reason for having these windows mobile devices is all in one phone and sat nav as I am a driver and sat nav is a MUST .I allways have the latest version of Tom Tom navigator installed on my phone. This is when I started to get fed up with touchscreen phones as they can be so annoying with wrong finger scrolling and such likes, I decided I now need a device with physical keys.
This were my search for qwerty keyboard phone began,firstly I bought the Samsung i780 which on the face of it was a fantastic device it was solid,fast ,However the gps was just awfull I loaded up my tom tom but I tried in vein to install endless apps like gps test /gps gate,etc etc and just could not get it to work right,
Next up was the I-mate 8502 again another nice device but 10 -15 resets a day all got too much and that went also.
So here I am with the Palm Treo Pro ,managed to get a nice example from Ebay for £70,really nice device loads my tomtom 7 with 850 maps on no problem,really likin the phone ,I think I have finally found a phone that will suit all my needs ,spb mobile shell to get away from the home screen and I`m away. First day using the Phone with the tomtom on and the the phone freezes on me twice ,soft reset sorts it out .,I have read endless amounts on this since then with no conclusive remedy.IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM or is this fine phone going to be a non starter,I will be so disapointed as i really enjoy using this device,all help or comments will be greatly received.
Thanks in advance.
well if you have a data plan, i highly recommend getting google maps. otherwise you could try bing. both are very good applications and save you a lot of space. sorry im not familiar with tom tom, but i do know that there is not too much ram on the treo. if you close all your other applications in the background, you might get it to work then =]
Thanks for your reply .Think I have found a remedy to the tomtom freezing daily,I changed the baud rate from 4800 to 9600 and so far no more freezing and losing sats,only been 2 days but no more hang ups.
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Thanks for your reply .Think I have found a remedy to the tomtom freezing daily,I changed the baud rate from 4800 to 9600 and so far no more freezing and losing sats,only been 2 days but no more hang ups.
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Hi, if u don't mind shelling out some more money i would recommend u try Garmin's navigation software. I've been using it almost daily for about 6 months with fast gps detection rate, etc, and it has never frozen up on me. and as computerguy pointed out, it works best if other applications in d background are exited.
P.S. I'm using a custom ROM though.
I'd second the Garmin software. Used to run the TomTom software on mine and had nothing but troubles. It would either freeze up or just would lose the GPS signals constantly. Garmin might not be as nice to use but its rock solid in comparison.
I agree about TomTom freezing. I don't have it as often as you do but I do have occasions where it seems to lose all track of where it is.
I have switched to Sygic MM10 and it's brilliant. It uses the same maps as TomTom but has better graphics and is rock solid