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Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
Now i take it off of the charger in the morning and then around lunch the batter is low already...
Is my batter just toast?
Should I get another?
THANKS!
T
Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?
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Hi, my batter has been working great since Christmas, but now for some reason won't last more than a fwe hours without saying battery low. I have my gprs check email every 5 minutes, but it has always been that way and I have been gettnig a good 2 days out of my phone before.
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Mine is brand new (tmobile MDA) and when I enabled 802.11g I noticed a dramatic drop in battery life. I think for the sake of the battery I will only enable that as needed.
I wonder also if you are in the same proximity to the mobile towers, if you are on a border between coverage you will see a drop in battery life becuase it is transmitting more frequently to register with the mobile network.
To try to see if its your battery or something you are using, and while this may be incredibly difficult with a mobile, especially a mobile/pda that you use frequently, you may want to see about turning off features to see if that helps. Turn off wifi and see if that helps, turn off bluetooth and see about that, etc. Once you rule them out as the major culprit ...
While I highly doubt this may be the case, it is a possiblity, and worth looking into, especially if you noticed a sudden drop in battery life as opposed to a gradual diminishment. You may have some rogue software that is sending out more data via a wireless device than you desire. A worm, trojan, whatever. There are anti-virus packages available, I dont know how good any of them are, http://www.freecabs.de has some, some of the big commercial guys make some. Again I dont think its that becuase of the rules of probability, however it is possible and some have been known to exist in the wild for a few years now.
T,
I had the same thing with my c500, now I know they are two entirely different phones but after I flashed the device it was as good as new in terms of battery life.
It may be worth a try before you go and buy a new battery.
Marc
I have the same problem.
Not overclocking, no anti-virus, just regular phone use and my battery does not last a day!!
I keep it on charger most of the day to avoid shut-down.
me too
I've the same problem and I've an other big problem, when I turn off my Vario, it's dont't start on power botton (i must extract and insert a battery turn on the telephone).
We can make a test if anyone have a HTC diagnostic software (see service manual.pdf)
Check your today screen.
I too had the same issue. Mainly, PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop. Along with any today elements that poll your hardware to display the amount of battery, memory and storage. Those all drain your battery.
To check whether it's really a today screen issue or not. Charge your battery to it's full 100%, remove ALL today screen elements, then use your mobile normally and keep checking the battery level drain rate.
Hope this was useful.
Mine dies, 100% when leave work, some usage and then dead in the morning.
I only have Pocketbreeze and a few plug ins installed.
There is NO wireless /bluetooth in that time.
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Just a question, but have you been overclocking your TI OMAP processor? Maybe there's a correlation?
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nope.
I have not been using wifi at all lately either
I have spb today stuff but have had them since I first got my wizard. really, I have not changed anything....
some programs "eat up" battery life. Investigate by doing a HARD reset, then do not install ANY software for two days. I bet you will see your normal battery life ;-)
I took all today programs off
100% at 5.30
32% at 7.30
This is O2 Mini Rom without all the 02 crap.
I will investigate further. Hard reset here we come!!
Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?
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Last night my battery was 100% at 5.30 after a hard reset, no o2 software installed and very light usage.
This morning at 7.35 it was 50% which is good I guess???
Suggestions as to whether it is the battery?
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Still not good enough, should hold for 3 days if you do not use it. Get a battery replacement.
Typically I charge every other day, little phone talks however.
PhoneDashboard was causing the battery drop
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Ah, I run this. Is it bad? I've turned off all the scrolling updates etc - did you find that helped?
Got a battery replacement but still after no real use dropped to 50% in only 13 hours.
Any other ideas?
mine works for about 5 days normal usage with this options:
- phone on
- bt off
- wifi off
- automatically receive IrDa incoming... (Connections ->beam...)
so the wifi on my batt only last for a few hours, but when you disable wifi and the irda incoming you should have more batt. life
Thanks I will give this a try and have taken out irDA.
However my figures were with Bluetooth and Wireless off as well
I have noticed that with wifi on (and particularly if I'm using it) the battery drops at a frightening rate. Whereas with wifi disabled (which it's been for most of today - first day since I've had the XDA that I've been busy working and so haven't been 'fiddling' with it at all ) the battery still seems to be sitting happily at 80% after around 8 hours.
Funny, I thought that if the phone was suspended, the wifi would be inactive, so the battery wouldn't drop. Appears that's not the case...
Do u have Spb Pocket Plus installed? this program sucked my battery flat in 1 day. I removed it and now its up 2 or 4 days depending on how long i have wifi on. Checking email every 5 min also reduces battery life allot.
goodluck
No pocket plus... My today screen just has phmtray, resco today, taskplus, and the pocketmusic plugin...
I've just bought a slightly used Mda Vario II,
but i have some troubles with the battery. i fully charged the battery (i suppose 15 hours)and when i checked the led was green. so i began to use my new device. but after 4 hours the battery was empty.
i'd remove the battery and placed it back in the device. and it boots.
with 20% battery and it lasts for i suppose an hour. then it shuts down again and if i do the same it starts again with 10% good for a half hour.
is this a common problem? is my battery dead? does someone has a solution?
Depends what you do with it. If you are using it a lot, depending on what you use, it could be normal. If its in standby with minimal use, a few calls/txt/mms/email, then it may be the battery needs replacing.
Charging the battery should only take 2-3 hours, NOT 15 unless you are using a non standard charger, even then 15 hours is excessive (unless you mean you left it overnight).
I'd look at replacing the battery, if you know someone with the same phone you might be able to borrow their battery to test. Test your battery in theirs and their battery in yours.Only thing I could think to try...
Cheers...
Thanks for the fast respond,
i am using 3g the whole day. automatic recieve email every 5 minutes.
furthermore i'm an average user i think.
how many hours can you use your tytn?
From what I hear 3G eats a lot of power. 4 hours sounds pretty good if you are having it on all the time. A 3G iPhone doesn't do better! I don't use 3G on mine but I am a heavy user. Data connection (EDGE) on all the time, Bluetooth always on, use it as an mp3 player, take about 3 hrs of phone calls, and surf the web. I don't let mine drain all the way down (leave it plugged in the car and at my desk) and I carry 3 batteries as spares. I'd say a battery might last about 9-10 hrs. if I didn't plug it in. I'm sure if I had 3G, it would be about 4-5. Of course it depends on your battery size as well...
If you aren't actively downloading/surfing the web, why not just turn off 3G until you need to use it?
Also need to remember that its not good tolet the battery discharge lower than 10%. People have had problems where the phone then doesn't recognise the battery is plugged in when trying to recharge. If you are gonna keep downloading emails on 3g all the time, it might be worthwhile to invest in another battery or two as vwkess does.
I tend to get a day or 2 out of my battery but I download my emails through activesync when at home or the office. Gives my battery a longer life and is easier and cheaper as Oz doesn't have unlimited data plans that are "reasonable".
Also would suggest getting a Larger capacity battery if lugging around a couple of extra batterries is too much of a pain. Though depending on what size you get it can make your Hermes larger. I have a 1650 Mah but you can get 3000 Mah batterries. Its up to you...
Cheers...
Thanks for the reply's!
I have a original 1350mAh battery.
And EDGE isn't supported in the netherlands.
Is it possible to switch between 3G and GPRS?
So i can set the phone to GPRS when i'm not using internet.
Will a 1500mAh battery last longer? or is it better to pick a even larger battery?
Yes, you should be able to turn off 3G in the Comm manager and just turn it on when you need it. 1500 will last a little longer, probably a couple of hours depending on usage.
G'day everyone,
I'm wondering if anyone has experienced a similar issue to what I'm having on my x10i.
I use to unplug my device from the charger around 7am (100% - fully charged) and the battery dies around 7pm. The main usage of my device is for making a couple of short phone calls, sending/receiving tens of SMSs, regularly checking my facebook, twitter and email account. Not a heavy usage I think, around 85% of the time is put on standby. I was really unsatisfied because my other device "HTC hero" stays for over two days. A few facts about my HTC Hero: 1) It is way much older and nearly damaged, 2) I am using it mainly for family/personal really long calls (30-45mins per call) and 3) Always connected to my car's built in phone system (Bluetooth is up all the time).
Since I bought my device 2 months ago, I was in a continues contact with SE the Middle East regarding battery issues. Honestly, they were very informative and respond quicker than any other company I dealt with before. They replied to me with really useful tips that extended my batter life to stay alive till the mid night (extra 4-5 hrs). Tips given were: Brightness automatic adjustment, Disabling auto Wifi detection... etc. Though, I was still not quite satisfied.
One day I decided to do my own experiments to observe the real problem with my x10 battery. This was 3 days ago. The first thing I started with, and apparently the last, was disabling the 3G service. I turned off the 3G service, and turned on the 2G (Edge) instead. Believe it or not, the first day my device's battery status was about ~85% when I got back home from work, ~70% at the mid night, ~55 percent when I woke up the next day, ~25% when I got back home, and dies around 8pm (from 17hrs to 37hrs). It was a straight shock to me. I already know that enabling 3G would shorten the battery life for both the short and long term, but honestly I wasn't expecting this much of difference in the daily usage. The other thing, I didn't notice any huge difference between before and now. Internet surfing is a bit slower, couldn't notice the difference. Twitter, Facebook and email worked just the same since I check them whenever I got notified. The last thing is I'm using mobile messenger now, i.e. eBuddy, since the battery is giving me longer time, and all my messenger accounts are on all the time.
Please, if you are having the same issue, let me know because I was assuming that there's something wrong on my device, either on the battery itself or the build software (build # R2BA024)
Regards
The improvements you're seeing are probably due to you living in an area with poor 3G reception. The poorer the signal is, the harder the phone has to work to maintain the connection, thus, eating battery faster.
Although, it shouldn't be THAT big of a battery loss... I'd look at what programs you have installed and running and see if any of them are secretly eating battery behind your back.
You should try installing and running "Data on demand" It switches your data connection off when the phones screen is off...
Its well worth upgrading to 026, i saw a huge increase in battery life from that.
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The improvements you're seeing are probably due to you living in an area with poor 3G reception. The poorer the signal is, the harder the phone has to work to maintain the connection, thus, eating battery faster.
Although, it shouldn't be THAT big of a battery loss... I'd look at what programs you have installed and running and see if any of them are secretly eating battery behind your back.
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Absolutely correct. At home I can leave my X10 for days without it dying with 3G enabled. At work there are dead zones that'll suck a phone dry within an 8 hour shift though. It's almost always a coverage issue.
For any battery issue I suggest a factory reset and THEN make the appropriate adjustments. Sounds useless but sometimes you can emulate all the same settings and things still don't happen as anticipated.
Use a 3G toggle widget for long periods where you KNOW it won't be necessary. Root your X10 and add SetCPU to that bad boy. Screw using task killers because the Android OS is *nix based and handles memory just fine - I only kill tasks before putting my phone away when I know I won't use it for an hour or more. Other than that, don't use task killers, battery monitors or anything that'll keep your phone from sleeping. Use Spare Parts if you need help identifying an annoying program too.
Thanks all for the useful comments.
Now, I feel more confident that I can keep the battery alive for even more than 2 days. Thanks for your information and knowledge : )
[Q]: Is there any application that shows (in bars or digits) the strength of 3G signal?
Hi,
I am using quantum with mango update and i am getting only 6-7 hrs of battery life tops. So i just wanted to know if this is the case with all or only for me. I use 3g network and browse for 1 hr or so.
Battery life varies on how much talking you do, so to conserve battery, you need to turn off data, wifi, gps, and Bluetooth and turn them on only when you need them. I have to charge my phone every night. So your battery life is consistent.
Using 3G for continuous use, really drains your battery, so it's normal to last so few.
You could use some tips from Rob Miles: robmiles.com/journal/2012/3/4/lumia-800-battery-life-tips.html (even though they are for Lumia 800 they apply to all WP7 devices)
Also, you could track to see how many apps are running as background tasks (settings-> flick left on the applications pivot item, and select background tasks).
But the general advise is to carry an USB cable and hook the phone into a computer everytime you can, to maintain it consistently charged.
First to clarify my question: I'm not asking how to prevent the daily battery drain in a poor-signal area. It definitely happens unless the phone is switched to airplane mode. My question is how to avoid the shortening of the battery life in the long run if the phone has to be used in such condition.
My workplace is basically a signal black hole to any carrier. With T-mobile I got no service for most of the time but I can occasionally send/receive text messages/emails say every 15 minutes with flimsy connection. There is absolute no way to make a phone call, so I usually walk outside when needed. I don't have WiFi neither so I prefer to keep the phone on to stay on the grid. However my concern is doing so will shorten the battery life eventually due to the constant power draining and recharging, so I come up with some ways for such condition. Please suggest which you think will do the least harm to battery and allow me to receive email and text.
1. Use it normally. It usually consumes 60% of the battery just sitting on my desk throughout the day. I can actually live with it be cause the battery is large enough for me to waste this way. But it harms the battery life without a doubt.
2. Use it with a charger plugged on my desk for most of the time, so it will supply the power for signal searching. Usually if you keep a battery at full charge all the time, it dies soon due to "slacking." My laptop has this problem and its battery basically serves as a UPS now. I have less concern for a phone because it will still be recharged daily.
3. Use an NFC tag to tell the phone it's in the office, and then use some software to prevent the draining like Tasker/Juice Defender. That makes most sense but I haven't have figure out the profiles. I've used Tasker before (thought it's too complicated) and NFC is totally new to me. I would like to take some suggestions if you have done something similar.
Thanks!
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First to clarify my question: I'm not asking how to prevent the daily battery drain in a poor-signal area. It definitely happens unless the phone is switched to airplane mode. My question is how to avoid the shortening of the battery life in the long run if the phone has to be used in such condition.
My workplace is basically a signal black hole to any carrier. With T-mobile I got no service for most of the time but I can occasionally send/receive text messages/emails say every 15 minutes with flimsy connection. There is absolute no way to make a phone call, so I usually walk outside when needed. I don't have WiFi neither so I prefer to keep the phone on to stay on the grid. However my concern is doing so will shorten the battery life eventually due to the constant power draining and recharging, so I come up with some ways for such condition. Please suggest which you think will do the least harm to battery and allow me to receive email and text.
1. Use it normally. It usually consumes 60% of the battery just sitting on my desk throughout the day. I can actually live with it be cause the battery is large enough for me to waste this way. But it harms the battery life without a doubt.
2. Use it with a charger plugged on my desk for most of the time, so it will supply the power for signal searching. Usually if you keep a battery at full charge all the time, it dies soon due to "slacking." My laptop has this problem and its battery basically serves as a UPS now. I have less concern for a phone because it will still be recharged daily.
3. Use an NFC tag to tell the phone it's in the office, and then use some software to prevent the draining like Tasker/Juice Defender. That makes most sense but I haven't have figure out the profiles. I've used Tasker before (thought it's too complicated) and NFC is totally new to me. I would like to take some suggestions if you have done something similar.
Thanks!
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Isn't the issue with batteries related to cycles? I'm not sure it matters that you end up with 40% of battery at the end of the day vs 15% when you charge it up. A cycle is a cycle, more or less I think.
If you don't believe the first point, I also don't think that research really shows that leaving a lithium ion battery plugged in "all" the time has major detrimental effects, and even if it did you would still be using the battery for a good deal of the day, at least the time you're not at work right?
I feel like you might be a little too worried about it.
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Isn't the issue with batteries related to cycles? I'm not sure it matters that you end up with 40% of battery at the end of the day vs 15% when you charge it up. A cycle is a cycle, more or less I think.
If you don't believe the first point, I also don't think that research really shows that leaving a lithium ion battery plugged in "all" the time has major detrimental effects, and even if it did you would still be using the battery for a good deal of the day, at least the time you're not at work right?
I feel like you might be a little too worried about it.
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About the charging cycle, I read something here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries. Basically it shows deep charging cycles has more detrimental effects on the battery capacity. My point was if the battery is cycled deeply everyday, it is under much more stress compared to those working with good signals.
Maybe I worry too much but I feel really bad just to see my phone sitting there wasting a lot of battery.
I have had the same problem with you as my office is underground.
From my experience, it's best to turn off data. You can turn off the radio all together, but I guess you still want to have signal where you can.
This can be automated by Taker (haven't used) or Juice Defender. I don't know if Juice Defender Free can do this (it should), but Juice Defender Ultimate have an option to turn off wifi and data when the screen is off.
Having the charger next to your desk is also a viable option. But rather than plugging it all the time, you should charge when it is needed.
Edit: as discussed elsewhere, you should not try to do full charges (0-100%) as this would not work out well for you at office as well as it it will shorten battery life.
Edit 2: Juice Defender Ultimate
=> Enable Advance profile (Status Tab)
=> Go to Control Tab
=> Enable Mobile Data and Wifi control (first and third option)
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About the charging cycle, I read something here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries. Basically it shows deep charging cycles has more detrimental effects on the battery capacity. Mypoint was if the battery is cycled deeply everyday. it is under much more stress compared to those working with good signals.
Maybe I worry too much but I feel really bad just to see my phone sitting there wasting a lot of battery.
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Can you try only charging your phone at work? From the options you've listed,leaving it plugged in seems like the best option at work seems like the best option. Assuming you currently only charge your phone once a day, it shouldn't make much difference to switch the charging time to during the work day.This way your peak energy usage will fall on a time when you have unlimited power available and you should have enough battery to go home and come back.
build.prop tweak
There is a build.prop tweak but I can't guarantee that it works.
You can try it out and tell us about it :fingers-crossed:
http://www.s3forums.com/forum/galaxy-s3-hacking-mods/474-list-some-build-prop-tweaks.html
#improve battery under no signal
ro.mot.eri.losalert.delay=1000
The number value is how often to re-connect to the tower. A phone in a poor connection area will
attempt to reconnect all the time, draining the battery. It's in milliseconds so 1000 = 1sec. I wouldn't
exceed 2sec but you already knew you are on your own with this one.
I have the exact problem at work.
My question is if I connect the phone to the charger at work, will the phone runs on the juice from the charger or from the battery? If it runs on the juice from the charger (like laptops), that should have minimum effect to the battery. If it uses the battery and the charger just charges the battery then the battery life will be cut in half (2 charge per day instead of 1 charge per day).
I have terrible signal at work and my Inspire has a small battery. My phone is in power save by lunch. I charge mine during lunch every day and leave it on the charger at night. I generally will not plug it in if I can't charge it all the way up. My original battery is now 18 months old and works as well as it did new. Other Inspire/DHD users have had to replace batteries in less than 12 months, so I don't think my charging cycle variations have harmed it too much.
It only has to last until after the holidays when I can order my N4. Even if I had to try to push it to 2 years, I think I wouldn't worry too much.
Also, by the time it is not under warranty, the batteries will be cheap and will always be easier to change than an iPhone.
Sent using the power of the dark side.
Thanks everyone. Based on the discussion I think I will just use it normally and charge whenever needed. The phone should be my slave not the other way around. I'm not planning to root it, at least not now, so I won't change the build.prop.
I did tried Juice Defender yesterday. It slowed down the battery drain but not very impressively, because it only turns off the data not the entire cellular radio. I installed the app during lunch so you can see the difference from the middle of the day. Google+ was a real ***** because it tried to upload my camera photos with such connection... I turned it off too so it also helped.
"Android OS" should not be this active.
It's possible that you have some background process draining the battery. Try disabling as many services as you can.
If you have Wifi at work try turning it ON. If not then turn your Mobile Data OFF like KyraOfFire suggested.
I get weak signal at my work as well. Thankfully, we have WiFi, so I usually force my phone to use 2g then connect to WiFi. :good:
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"Android OS" should not be this active.
It's possible that you have some background process draining the battery. Try disabling as many services as you can.
If you have Wifi at work try turning it ON. If not then turn your Mobile Data OFF like KyraOfFire suggested.
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I don't have Wifi unfortunately. I will look into Android OS later on.