Is wireless G possible? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

is wireless g standard possible on the exec, i ask as i hate it wen my only wireless B device brings down all my wireless G devices down to B speeds! lol
thanks

If you have a search on the forum you will find lots of discussion on this subject, people saying that have enabled g on the Universal, others saying that have made the changes to enable g and it makes no difference. It's not so easy to test unless you have a g only router or can force your router to g only. Truth is though, as someone has said already, the wifi chipset in the universal does NOT support g and never will, its a hardware limitation not a software one.
As for bringing your wifi network down to b from g when using a b device, that's a new one on me, I may be wrong, and someone will correct me if I am, but b/g routers can handle both at the same time. The only time your device will affect transmission speed is when communicating in any way from a g PC to your b Universal and even then your g PC will still be g to the router and then b from the router to your Universal.
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I've never seen it myself but I've heard of this with some older wifi routers/access points, it lowers the wifi to the slowest connection.. ie you connect a "b" it slows all your "g" connections to the speed of the "b".

Right, this is not just on "older" wireless kit, it is on all of it. As a wireless network is the equivalent of a hubbed network (same data sent to all the clients at the same timne) the data can only be sent as fast as the slowest device, even though it may not be directly involved in the communication.
That is the general reason for having G-only networks, to prevent these 11mb devices comming on and slowing your nice 54mb network down to 11mb.

True.. but with my Belkin PreN mimo wireless router it can operate b & g and continues to transmit a link rate of 108mbps without the older 'hub' slowdown problem.
yay for Belkin.

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Getting wireless g to work on universal

Hi all
I was desperate to get my universal (XDA exec) connected to my wireless network so installed the DJVW_HTC_Wizard_Optimizer_2_1_.0.cab file from the other wizard thread, soft resetted and it now conencts to my wireless g network where as before I could see the network but it would never connect so it is good on that front but....
Obviously I should have just edited the registry on my universal somewhere to get g working as that CapNotify.exe part is now giving me an error after restarting :-( - I get:
The file 'CapNotify' cannot be opened. Either is is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file"
Any ideas how I can lose this but keep my new g wireless ability?
Cheers in advance!
Just to say I deleted that complete registry key for CapsNotify and did a clean up with pocketmechanic and all is working fine after soft resetting and I am on my g network getting 600K+ speeds so am happy.
Cheers
The Universal only has an 802.11b radio I thought
Well I could see my g only network before and no matter what settings (54g-Auto, 54gLRS, 54g only) I tried I couldn't connect but now I can connect and surf brilliantly using either 54g-auto or 54glrs but after changing my router to g only it will not connect so it has definitly changed something but maybe I was hasty to say is now 54g - my bad
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Sorry,
But which software you use on your Universal to see the speed of WiFi?
Thanks
I just loaded up http://text.deslreports.com and clicked speed test
I used the cab for Wizzard but I didn't see any change. I set my WiFi router in g mode only and I cannot Connect now...
wireless G
I also was under the impression that the HTC Universal was only capable of wireless 802.11b....Can it do G?
http://text.dslreports.com
Ooo, my out of the box says 250kbit/sec, that can't be right surely!?
No it won't be! If you're connected to a wireless network then it's giving you the speed of the connection ebtween the wireless network and the outside world. HOWEVER... if you're using GPRS or UMTS then WOW! :wink:
I measured about 900kbps using a PC on the same wireless network on this site, so I'm not 100% convinced it isn't measuring SOMETHING useful since the numbers are wildly different (compared to 250kpbs on the Exec).
If I went to the speed test on adslguide.org.uk I saw 1878kbps downstream on my PC (which is roughly what I expect)....can't test from Exec as I don't have a browser that can run Java (I don't think?).
I think its just a flakey calculation.

X1 cant detect wireless N-Router--NEED HELP!

Hi guys, my X1 seems to have some problems connecting to my home wireless belkin router ( N-series). i can locate other networks in the area but fail to locate my N router which is just beside me! please help me! i recently upgraded from a G router to a N router, but it shud be compatible. any ideas?
dedt said:
Hi guys, my X1 seems to have some problems connecting to my home wireless belkin router ( N-series). i can locate other networks in the area but fail to locate my N router which is just beside me! please help me! i recently upgraded from a G router to a N router, but it shud be compatible. any ideas?
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have u checked if your router is sending/recieving B and G signals.
u usually have an option to have just N, B, G or all the signals running
dedt said:
Hi guys, my X1 seems to have some problems connecting to my home wireless belkin router ( N-series). i can locate other networks in the area but fail to locate my N router which is just beside me! please help me! i recently upgraded from a G router to a N router, but it shud be compatible. any ideas?
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Xperia does not support Draft N. Only B & G Standards. Do what Ganondolf suggested or regret your purchase.
dedt said:
Hi guys, my X1 seems to have some problems connecting to my home wireless belkin router ( N-series). i can locate other networks in the area but fail to locate my N router which is just beside me! please help me! i recently upgraded from a G router to a N router, but it shud be compatible. any ideas?
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You need to create a "guest" connection. This means your router has to send out two signals. One for your primary users, and one for your guests. Log into your router, new routers should have a guest mode. Enable it, give it a name, assign a pw, and your phone should recognize.
all hope is gone!
i dont think there is a solution to this problem, i confirmed that my router mode is set to B G N, and my phone does not detect the network, however when i set the router to G, it works with the x1. i called belkin and they said that the frequency of the modem is too high for to phone and told me to set the modem to G, however i refused. I bought an N router for a reason for Gods sake. If i was going to set it to G, might as well saved some money and purchased a G router. SAD! looks like nothing can be done.
i have no idea how to do the guest mode, will that work tho?
Which Belkin model do you have?
Most are supported by DD-WRT (alternative, open source firmware) A lot of problems in OEM firmware are solved through the use of DD-WRT, as it offers more options and stability (such as max simultaneous connections for linksys routers)
To check if your router is supported: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/dd-wrt/hardware.html
try disable extensions/turbo mode etc, this helps alot on dlink routers
and leave b,g,n on, check if you can change the channels they are running on etc
dedt said:
i dont think there is a solution to this problem, i confirmed that my router mode is set to B G N, and my phone does not detect the network, however when i set the router to G, it works with the x1. i called belkin and they said that the frequency of the modem is too high for to phone and told me to set the modem to G, however i refused. I bought an N router for a reason for Gods sake. If i was going to set it to G, might as well saved some money and purchased a G router. SAD! looks like nothing can be done.
i have no idea how to do the guest mode, will that work tho?
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No such problem exist with my draft n d-link router?
I doubt that you must switch to G only in order for X1 to connect
In terms of "FREQUENCY" they mentioned, mainly there are two types of settings you can mess with
More advanced draft N router has two major different frequencies - 2.4 Ghz, or 5 Ghz. And if you router is using 5Ghz, then X1 obvious can't connect to the router coz 5Ghz requires the latest draft n technology. However there should always be settings where you can just switch it back to 2.4 Ghz. Personally 2.4 and 5 Ghz doesn't make much difference unless you have 20 wiresless devices all using 2.4 Ghz at home.
Another type of "frequencies" are sometimes called "channels" ... e.g. you will see some wireless hotspot are on CH1, CH2, .... and it should go all the way up to CH 13. These channels operate at frequencies very close to the major frequency, e.g. CH1 = 2.412, CH2=2.417, ... , CH13=2.472. However it has been reported and personally tested that X1 seems to have problems with channels higher than 11.
This isn't a surprising problem because these high channels are designed for 108Mbps wireless adapter and clearly X1 isn't capable of such high speed.
(amusement at "Firefall!": I don't think it's necessary to "regret" purchasing X1 just because it doesn't support draft N? Have you tried using high performance in WIFI settings and realize how fast the battery runs out? How long do you think the battery will last if they place a draft N WIFI chipset into the device? And what sort of HD videos are you planning to watch on your phone that requires draft N speed of 300 Mbps?)
Hence, you should try setting your router to 2.4Ghz mode (if you are currently on 5Ghz) and change it to channels below 11. And your X1 should be able to connect to the router
I have my X1i running with my Belkin N1 Vision Router working perfectly. Check your hardware son .
I have the Belkin N+ router...
http://www.gooddvdstuff.com/news/files.php?file=belkin__109732273.jpg
And my Xperia does not connect to the router unless I create a "guest" mode. So I broadcasted a secondary guest connection and it works.
me again
ok, this is the modem that i am using and having trouble with,
http://www.vsbuyse.be/webafbeeldigen/computer/BelkinF5D8636ED4A.jpg
model, F5D8636
and note, i never regretted buying the x1. It was the modem that i regretted!
any keep giving suggestions and will let u know if i found a solution. THANKS GUYS
dedt said:
ok, this is the modem that i am using and having trouble with,
http://www.vsbuyse.be/webafbeeldigen/computer/BelkinF5D8636ED4A.jpg
model, F5D8636
and note, i never regretted buying the x1. It was the modem that i regretted!
any keep giving suggestions and will let u know if i found a solution. THANKS GUYS
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not sure what to say bud, maybe changing from 5ghz to 2.5ghz might work if u have a option but like u said if your pc is using n then u dont want to go down to g just so your phone connets.
ps. if your pc does not use n (or any other device) u getting a n router is pointless as even if your pc is connecting, its doing it through g not n.
ps2. i always go for netgear routers, seem to work better for me bud

[Q] Focus doesnt find wireless-n network!!

On the specs it says the phone supports wireless n (802.11n), but when i go to settings and search for networks it wont show my local wireless n network, is it the phone or just wp7 that currently doesn't support wireless n?!
No problem with wireless N here. But WP7 doesn't support hidden networks. Make sure your wireless network is visible. Also not clear is whether or not the phone can connect to 5GHz band.
lungothrin said:
On the specs it says the phone supports wireless n (802.11n), but when i go to settings and search for networks it wont show my local wireless n network, is it the phone or just wp7 that currently doesn't support wireless n?!
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This is one of those unusual known software issues. The phone is capable of n, but the mediocre wifi software/interface the the phone is packaged with has no options to enable it. This is set to be a first round fix. Chalk this up there with the no hidden SSID's support right now.
There is no good reason as to why your phone cannot do this now and you probably could go into the diagnosis panel and figure it out, but that is not the users responsibility.
MS must have a great reason, but it is not readily apparent.
Yeah my router does 2.4ghz G & N plus 5ghz N; so it connects but it would be nice to know what it is connecting at. I am sure it doesn't do 5ghz because that ssid is not found as an option but it would be nice to know it is connecting to the N 2.4 and not the G.
It doesn't support 5ghz N. I had to change my router back to 2.4.
tonyfreak215 said:
It doesn't support 5ghz N. I had to change my router back to 2.4.
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Or you can just let it connect to 2.4 11g instead. There is no benefit for it to be in 11n other than burn your battery faster.
My router is set on 5ghz wireless n, so i guess that's why the phone cant show the ssid.

WiFi Problems

[Q] Do you have speed problems with Wifi? (N-band)
I have wifi N router and set to N only. I have two laptop both wifi N capable. When I transfer file usung file sharing betwen two laptop I m getting speed abt 3Mb/s but when i transfer file between laptop and SGS I only get speed of 300 Kb/s. SGS support wifi N standerd then why it so. Well I use ES file explorer to access file in my laptop over Wi- Fi.
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It's a mobile device, they have lower throughput and probably only 1 antenna (most 802.11n devices have 3). There are a lot of factors, but basically, all that's important is that it supports the 802.11n protocol. Optimisation may lead to faster speed boosts over time though.
Network traffic might also be set to a low priority to help ensure the phone runs reliably for other tasks, but I have no idea why exactly it's slower exactly.
I get 1.5mbs from my nas and wireless n network
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i get 19.5mb downlaoding speed
and 4.3mb uplaoding speed
on my wi-fi
my connection 500/500mb
I m talking abt internet speed. I m asking abt file transfer speed betn my SGS and laptop
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87 Mbps according to mine
i'll grab a screen shot when i get back home
87 seems too much I only get 25 while copy file on hard drive it self
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that's actually low for me, but is better than nothing
my PC down in the cine room gets around 218+ Mbps
I get about 80Mbps laptop <-> network (802.11n 5Ghz), and about 5Mbps SGS <-> network (802.11n 2.4Ghz). Not horrible, but certainly not wonderful. I wish it had a 5Ghz radio too, so I could turn off my 2.4Ghz stuff :-/
[Q] Do you have problems with Wifi? (N-band)
Since my phone is on it's way to the repaircenter I would like to ask you all this Question.
I have problems with my wifi connection. The strange thing is, is that my router is brandnew! b+g+N!!!
The weird part is that it has only problems with the N-band
SO I hooked up another wireless router only with the b+g band and BAM it works.
But that's just messed up to have 2 wireless routers one for laptops and one just for my mobile phone...
So can u try the same thing and give me your comments about this issue?
there was already a topic about this
however one topic we did not touch base on, on the other topic was about the B+G bands
if you read the documentations you'll noticed that for N to work at full speed, it must only listen to N no B no G
when you use Mix mode, N doesn't work well
to use N, you need 2 bands, B + G only needs 1 band
if you enable all 3 B+G+N you only get 1 band for all, so making the N useless
the trick is to update all your old hardware that still runs G or B to N
then you can use pure N, and gain full speed
the SGS phone can run up to 87 Mbps on N
meanwhile computers can go up to 280+ Mbps
AllGamer said:
there was already a topic about this
however one topic we did not touch base on, on the other topic was about the B+G bands
if you read the documentations you'll noticed that for N to work at full speed, it must only listen to N no B no G
when you use Mix mode, N doesn't work well
to use N, you need 2 bands, B + G only needs 1 band
if you enable all 3 B+G+N you only get 1 band for all, so making the N useless
the trick is to update all your old hardware that still runs G or B to N
then you can use pure N, and gain full speed
the SGS phone can run up to 87 Mbps on N
meanwhile computers can go up to 280+ Mbps
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Okay I will consider it and can give it a try
Can't connect to home WPA2 wifi
Hello!
The problem is that I've been trying to connect to my home wifi like 100 times or more, but I'm still unable to get it working... The wifi it's WPA2 and it has a long sentence password...
Any ideas? Thank you!
arroba3 said:
it has a long sentence password...
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Maybe you need to shorten your password to try.
[Q] manual wifi fix app?
Hey, like many Android users I'm often having problems with Wifi not connecting to APs. While that can be fixed by restarting Android that takes a lot of time and is more than annoying. There are some apps to solve this issue, they "fix" wifi whenever the screen is turned on (e.g. http://www.appbrain.com/app/wifi-fixer/org.wahtod.wififixer http://www.appbrain.com/app/blade-wifi-fix/com.bladewififix).
That however I don't like either as due to the fixing taking place always wifi connection becoming established takes quite a lot of time. So my question: Is there an app that fixes the wifi connection but does so only manually, e.g. by clicking a widget button?
[Q] Can't connect to Wifi?
I select my Wifi network, I enter in the password, it says connecting, authenticating, connected, remembered, then it says disconnecting, searching, authenticating, and it repeats. The H at the top never disappears, no Wifi icon ever appears, what is the issue exactly?
And yes, I am connecting to a Wireless-G signal.
Don't worry I can't connect to your home network either so it's not a problem with your phone
I suggest you delete the password from the router and try and connect .
If you connect setup again with the password .
jje
arroba3 said:
Hello!
The problem is that I've been trying to connect to my home wifi like 100 times or more, but I'm still unable to get it working... The wifi it's WPA2 and it has a long sentence password...
Any ideas? Thank you!
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I had the same problem and i manage to fixit with "WIFI STATIC". It's free on Market. Access your router config and add your Galaxy Mac adress, then fill the parameters in WiFi Static. It Works! Never had problems again! Oh, i think you have to put your's computer(s) mac adress too in the router.
is there really no such app? :-(

Wifi Issues on wireless N

Hi all,
Does anyone else have issues using their i337 on wireless N? When mine connects, then after a minute or 2 the phone is not able to get access to the internet. I have to reset the router or cycle the wireless on the phone to get it back. If I force the router to only use wireless G, the phone wifi works great.... I have also tried resetting the router to factor, but no change....
any advice/thoughts?
Thank you in advance!
dahunt said:
Hi all,
Does anyone else have issues using their i337 on wireless N? When mine connects, then after a minute or 2 the phone is not able to get access to the internet. I have to reset the router or cycle the wireless on the phone to get it back. If I force the router to only use wireless G, the phone wifi works great.... I have also tried resetting the router to factor, but no change....
any advice/thoughts?
Thank you in advance!
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What Model and brand is your router? Your most likely going to need a new router, as it Would be its fault and not the phone. If its D-Link then that should be self explanatory lol
I'm having the same issue with my S4 and my D-Link DIR-655 router. Wireless N allows me to connect to the router and obtain an IP address on the network, but I get no internet connection. If I default the router to only use g and b, it connects fine with internet.
CATCubano said:
I'm having the same issue with my S4 and my D-Link DIR-655 router. Wireless N allows me to connect to the router and obtain an IP address on the network, but I get no internet connection. If I default the router to only use g and b, it connects fine with internet.
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Your just going to have to get a new router. D-Link mostly the older ones are nortrius for having issues like this. Depends on your internet speed and what you do over wireless more than 90% of people dont even need wireless N
CATCubano said:
I'm having the same issue with my S4 and my D-Link DIR-655 router. Wireless N allows me to connect to the router and obtain an IP address on the network, but I get no internet connection. If I default the router to only use g and b, it connects fine with internet.
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D-Link = bad router. Google it and you'll see all the problems it has been causing people for years.
As far as Wireless N, it's new enough that I'm guessing that Samsung and the router people both have some updating before it's as good as it should be
alacrify said:
D-Link = bad router. Google it and you'll see all the problems it has been causing people for years.
As far as Wireless N, it's new enough that I'm guessing that Samsung and the router people both have some updating before it's as good as it should be
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Yea The S4 has AC support I think, Which is the NEW standered. So It would deffantly have 100% Wireless N support haha
hyelton said:
Yea The S4 has AC support I think, Which is the NEW standered. So It would deffantly have 100% Wireless N support haha
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My Netgear router is only 6 months old, and doesn't have N support, since it requires multiple IO transmission. And MIMO has been a mess for manufacturers. So A) it might not work well from the phone side and B) any D-link router would probably work as well as you'd expect.
alacrify said:
My Netgear router is only 6 months old, and doesn't have N support, since it requires multiple IO transmission. And MIMO has been a mess for manufacturers. So A) it might not work well from the phone side and B) any D-link router would probably work as well as you'd expect.
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Its only G?? Wireless N has been the latest standered since 2007. Anything more than $20 for a wireless router thats not Wireless N today you paid too much. Bur AC is a WHOLE need thing. The Cheapest AC router is $160 and I think is kind of pointless for a mobile phone.
hyelton said:
Its only G?? Wireless N has been the latest standered since 2007. Anything more than $20 for a wireless router thats not Wireless N today you paid too much. Bur AC is a WHOLE need thing. The Cheapest AC router is $160 and I think is kind of pointless for a mobile phone.
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2009. And I didn't need MIMO since nothing I had supported it. And you're right about AC, I'm not upgrading the router just to get that - G doesn't carry through the walls in my house well enough to use. AC probably would, but I don't need the power draw.
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2009. And I didn't need MIMO since nothing I had supported it. And you're right about AC, I'm not upgrading the router just to get that - G doesn't carry through the walls in my house well enough to use. AC probably would, but I don't need the power draw.
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I have an RT-N16 and love it, the main thing I look for is Gigabit ethernet I have a server and a lot of big transfers are needed. I have a network of about 25 total devices.
I'm also having this problem. Why are people so quick to say it is the router's fault? Every other wireless device in my house works flawlessly, every person who visits me and connects to my wi-fi has zero issues. My GS4 is the only thing to ever have issues in fact.
I'm running DD-WRT on a Linksys WRT160-Nv3. Linksys and D-Link are probably the most commonly sold consumer router's here in the states. Your average person goes to Walmart, buys the 60 dollar router, and leaves. If Samsung can't design a phone that works with these common types of routers, then the problem is on their end.
Telling someone they need to go out and replace their router is really not an answer, using the reason "D-Links suck, your router is the problem" is opinion, not fact.
/rant.

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