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External Com-Port for the Magician

Hello,
i have an Magician an searching for an Com-Port. The Device has only an Micro-USB- / Mic.- Port. I saw at the wiki that there is a Port at the CPU called RX/TX /dev/tty2, can i use this as Com Port (with a max232?), for an serial GPS reciver an Terminal Aplications ?
Martin

You cannot use a serial GPS with Magician. You MUST use a bluetooth GPS.
There is no serial connector and "Serial over USB" is not implemented in ROM.

is there no way to use the com 2 from the cpu pinout, even if i modify the magician ?

I dont think so. You would be the first after YEARS to find this out. Anyway /dev/tty2 is linux??
You should better try something like this, saves you hassle:
http://www.brainboxes.com/product/bluetooth/BL-819.aspx

USB - RS232 / GPS / data logger

Hello everybody,
first of all, I want to apologize myself for my questions, because they are often discussed in several forums (USB-RS232).
BUT I did not find a solution. Sometimes I found "it works" and sometimes for the same problem "no chance". Enough ;-)
I'm writing a program in VB.net to log
1) all data from the GPS at COM4 and
2) all data from an acceleration sensor which might be connected via the USB-Port of my XDA Orbit (HTC Artemis).
Logging the GPS-data is no problem excepted the speed of the Sirf star III Chip. Can it update faster than 1sec?
My main problem is the connection to the sensor. I know that port of the XDA is an USB-Client. The data I receive from the development-board is sent via RS232-out.
My question:
Is it possible to get those data-strings into the xda to log them via the existing USB-port? How can I implement it?
Can I connect the USB-plug and the RS232 like I found several times in this forum? Does it work???
The solution of this project is very important for me.
For everybodys help, I am very grateful.
Thank you very much.
Greetings from Germany
Dee

If I understand you correctly, you wish to connect an RS232 output to the mini USB connector on your device and log the serial data coming into the USB port? Yes, this is possible, but not without a PIC microcontroller in between. RS232 runs on, IIRC, +9v/-9v, while USB runs on +5v. If you directly plug an RS232 output into your USB input without anything in between you very well might fry your phone. I don't recommend it.
Fortunately, RS232 to USB devices are easily found, both schematics and pre-made adapters.
A quick Google search found this schematic:
http://pinouts.ru/SerialPortsCables/usb_serial_adapter_pinout.shtml
fluxist

Hi fluxist,
thank you for your answer. It sounds very good to me. But does it work with an USB-Client-PDA?
Thanx a lot.
Greetings
Dee

USB Client to rs232
Hellow
If You want "USB Client to rs232" interface please contact me([email protected]). I can produce it for You. I Use this converter in many PDA projects.
Best regards
RBA

Serial Port for Athena t-mobile ameo

I cant find a pinout for the 16pin plug and was wondering where I can find it, but I dont think that would help me anyway.
I have a requirement for a Standard Serial port (RS232 type not USB).
Does anyone have any experience/advice on how to do this?
Do USB to serial adapters work?
Is there a mini SD to Serial port that anyone makes?
Any other ideas?
Thanks in advance
Jon

Have a look at something like this http://www.roalan.com/Bluetooth Wireless Serial RS232 Converter.htm you will have to code your own application for the phone to make use of it, I have used a similar device with my Athena - Mike

Thanks,
I am trying to avoid a wireless conection. What I am trying to do is use the Athena as a moving map for a glider. To do this I need to make use of an external GPS NMEA source. The software I am using works fine on a pda that has a std com port, I am hoping for a 'quick fix' to try it on the athena.
will this work, I havent looked for drivers yet tho!
http://www.roalan.com/USB to Serial RS232 RS422 RS485 Converter.htm
Cheers
Jon

I have to ask the obvious question though, why not use the internal GPS receiver in the phone? - if the application software you have isn't capable of switching the internal GPS on (some struggle with this) use Fransons GPS Gate to activate the inbuilt receiver and configure the ports, I would expect the inbuilt GPS to work quite well in a glider to be honest, and it does output NMEA data - what mapping application are you trying to use?
USB / RS232 converters are not the way forwards though, the mini USB port on the device is not a true USB port, it will not work with this sort of hardware, even if it did the converters generally don't work well as they don't use standard RS232 voltage levels - Mike

A good question. The external NMEA source contains additional sentances for things like accurate air speed and vertical speed that comes from a flight computer making measurements of the air. This is used for some of the calculations on the PDA. The software I will probably use is called SeeYou http://www.naviter.si/products/seeyou-mobile.php. There are several others, but this seems to work best in Landscape which is how I want it.
The internal GPS works fine with the software just to give map position.
I have managed to get it working by emulating a NMEA output over Bluetooth from a PC. I will try something like the Bluetooth to serial adapter and see what happens!
Cheers
Jon

Use OBD Reader for WM6

Hi,
I have an SX-66, and I used to used OBDGauge with W2003SE, the thing is I upgraded to WM6, and the program runs, but I get an error:
Error: Failed to open serial port
Does anyone know how to open a serial port under WM6?
I love this program and it works so well, I would hate to downgrade just to use it. I know it works for WM6, because a buddy of mine has the HTC Tilt and he uses the same program and it works fine for him.
If it is of any help, I use a ELM 323 connetion to serial.
If I figure it out, I will let you guys know how I did it.
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Also for those of you using WM6 on your SX66 with a BT GPS, I was able to connect mine when I used the BroadcomCorp_BT1.6.0.600 update.
I now connects flawlessly. Only thing is the connection takes a while to sync, like maybe 45-60 sec. I went from Miami, FL to Orlando, a 3 hour drive and it did not disconnect once. It also creates an extra Bluetooth file on my settings, but allows me to use the command manager to turn it off or on, so thats fine with me.

Do you connect your ODB reader via bluetooth?

No I connect it through data cable?

OBD WM6
If your PDA supports serial port hardware, you should open the same COM port as before? You can also use Bluetooth to read OBD data from your car : http://www.obdkey.com

Ok so everything is up and ready.
I have an ELM323 connecting to my Sx66. I am able to communicate beautifully with my Cars ECU now. Already have seen a few thing that need adjusting like my timing.
Well anyways. As soon as my wife gets home, I am going to take pictures. I will send you guys the looks. The good thing is I found the original data cable on ebay from Cingular/Siemens. It is USB and Serial, but it has an adapter to also charge it. I was worried, because my cradle did not have serial, but I know you could get an serial/usb adapter (but someone told me it would not work this way).
Anyways, upcoming plans are to do a little tweak, the same one from Youtube, called the Aximizer.
Also, one more thing are GSM attennas worth their money?

o_0
Ok....
So I am not liking something with OBDGauge, like the fact that it is a pain in the rear to get to work on my car. When I replied, it worked, now it is not. I have to diddle daddle with it until finally it works, takes 5 minutes (not very practical). I have been reading the forums and alot of people have problems with OBDgauge. I am going to install something else: If anyone you know of any programs let me know, must support WM6.

OK a heads up.
For those of you that want to do a little project you will need 3 things to get your blueangel to work with the OBDII reader in your car:
1. a serial null modem: you can find one at radio shack
2. serial cable data cable, a converter serial to usb will not work.
3. and an OBDII with elm 323 or 327, also autoenginuity has a great one package with a badass program that only works with their reader.
I am in the process of making a program with my brother-in-law for this to work with the ELM devices as we have notice that most programs are limited and do not feature things like oil pressure and miles per gallon.
I wish I knew how to create a dyno program, but I will leave it upto others to come.
I only know of two programs that work well with WM6 under the ELM that are free and they are: OBDGAUGE and ScanTest or MicroOBD.
anyways I do not know much about making a program for WM6, but my brother-in-law does. I am going to try my best with him to develop something, when I do, I will put out here for you guys to use.
I would like some new tips if possible so that we do not have to struggle too much.

sorgeangel said:
I know it works for WM6, because a buddy of mine has the HTC Tilt and he uses the same program and it works fine for him.
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How does your buddy connect his tilt to the OBDII reader, is there some bluetooth serial adapter involved? I have a Kaiser (and can't believe that the Tilt has a serial port or USB host) and am currently looking for exactly the same thing to do.

Any updates of apps för OBD reading?
Or just the same old same old apps?
OBDGauge and MicroOBD

Zoolooc said:
How does your buddy connect his tilt to the OBDII reader, is there some bluetooth serial adapter involved? I have a Kaiser (and can't believe that the Tilt has a serial port or USB host) and am currently looking for exactly the same thing to do.
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I would like to know also. I have a bluetooth ELM327 device that connects fine to my Palm Lifedrive, but when I try with the Tilt running WM6 I get the "failed to open serial port" window. Anyone got any ideas? Thanks
[edit] I did some more searching and found this post series at ATT's wireless site: http://forums.wireless.att.com/t5/HTC/HTC-Tilt-bluetooth-sync/td-p/1408041
QUOTE: Did you create an outgoing COM port on your phone? You then have to go into ActiveSync's options on the desktop (File-Connection Settings) and check the checkbox that says "Allow connections on " and select that port # in the pulldown menu. At least, that's how I do it in XP.
sanglee wrote:
I think I'm having the same problem... basically, I follow the instructions and still cannot sync. Here is what I see AFTER I pair the devices:
1. On PC (XP w/ all the updates), Bluetooth--> QuickConnect --> Serial Port does not have Tilt device in the pull down menu and when I "Find Device" it cannot find the device (remember, tilt and PC already paired)
2. On PC w/ ActiveSync4.2, I tried to CONNECT using "Connection Setting" and cannot find the Tilt.
3. On PC MyBluetoothPlace, I only see the following "services",
a. Dial-Up
b. Network Access Point
c. Voice Gateway
4. On Tilt, I only see the following services;
a. Wireless Stereo
b. Serial Port
c. Dial Networking
d. Headset
Help!
END QUOTE. Admittedly, this is originally dealing with ActiveSync, but I did discover the "New Outgoing Port" setting inside the Settings/Bluetooth folder. Click on COM ports. Select the device you wish to add (mine is called CBT). Hit next and select a COM port (I am using 5). I am going to test in the truck. Eureka! It works! Make sure the com port you select in OBDGauge preferences is the same you assigned to the BT ELM interface, and it should connect and start scanning. Hope this helps.

Connecting Keyboard Like Devices via USB or Bluetooth To Mogul - Hack / Build / OFS ?

It was suggested in the Titan forum on another subject that this type of discussion would be more appropriate and fruitful in the developer area.
I have just enough knowledge and experience to be dangerous with a soldering iron and electronic parts.
Connecting Keyboard Like Devices via USB or Bluetooth To Mogul
I have searched through the posts here and in other forums and have not found a precise or complete answer to these questions. Any help would be appreciated. I'm not an expert. I did read one post about using the Mogul as a control device ( keyboard ) however a very useful application is to use the Mogul as a data collection device in the field, especially when end users may have devices all ready connecting to laptops/desktops via the USB and seen as ASCII output ( like a 101 keyboard ).
Does the Mogul have USB host capability through the connector? There seems to be conflicting opinions. If it does what is needed to turn on the capability?
This is the scenario I am trying create without having to rebuild or build new devices. A cost effective solution is the goal.
Assume the data collection devices I want to connect to the Mogul have a standard USB connector and wiring the same as a USB 101 type keyboard ( though the devices are not keyboards ) and the signals coming out of the connector are the same. The data stream is ASCII character stream. The USB devices are self powered so they do not need to draw the 5 volts from the Mogul.
The goal is to connect such a device to the Mogul directly via the USB connector so that it looks like a keyboard OR connect the device to an external Bluetooth transmitter that looks like a Bluetooth keyboard.
Off the self product would be preferable to having to black box the project.
It would seem simple considering there are USB Bluetooth transmitters at fairly low cost, but I have not been able to find one for this specific application. Hacking and existing Bluetooth keyboard might work but it would be a bulky solution, a considerable downside as well as expense for each of the devices.
I'm not a corporate Mogul, just a single employee company / end user who has specific data collection needs.
Thanks in advance