Hello,
At my MDA Vario (Wizard) after Hard Reset have only 27,5MB free RAM!
With some programs installed, after a soft reset (RAM clean) have about 25MB of free RAM.
This is normal???
I expected more RAM, because this PDA have 64MB RAM to "run" programs! Whre is my RAM???
This turn PDA slow after open 2/3 programs!
How improve this?
Thanks
arp said:
At my MDA Vario (Wizard) after Hard Reset have only 27,5MB free RAM! With some programs installed, after a soft reset (RAM clean) have about 25MB of free RAM. This is normal???
I expected more RAM, because this PDA have 64MB RAM to "run" programs! Whre is my RAM???
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Sound similar to mine....when I reset the Wizard I get a few minutes where I only have about 9MB of free RAM (Program Memory) but that settles down after a while and I normally have about 26MB free (using Pocket Plus to close down applications when I hit the close button).
I am suffering from some memory leaks, after a soft reset I have abvout 25 MB free, after a while this drops to about 16 MB, and I have no idea where it goes.
@ arp: a lot of your RAM is consumed by running Wm5 and your apps in Ext ROM
Think, you have a lot of useless progs in Ext. Rom.
I have 47Mb free...
How did u do THAT??? I have only 44MB program memory AT ALL... ???
Yeah, with 47 MB user available to start with, how did you manage to get all the RAM free of any software?
I've fully cleaned extended RAM, didn't find there any good app. for my taste )).
ROM - Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship
i wonder what is extended RAM???
Even if you clean extended rom, you won't have all the memory available for yourself... could you post a screenshot?
sorry ... extended ROM
RAM
Strange!!!
I deleted my extended_ROM too (but has only 2,5MB too!) and made a Hard Reset to my MDA Vario, and have only 27,5MB free like I said!
More strange... Total program memory (RAM) is only 44,08MB! How you have 47MB free???
I think you are wrong... see...
Regards
I have 47,46Mb free, and now - 44,25Mb after setting up customization (LEng) and couple progs..
Could you *please* tell us exactly what u r doing, and post a screenshot if possible (the settings-memory-page). Only cleaning the ext.rom doesn't do the job for sure.
Only telling your numbers doesn't help anybody here...
Are you sure that you don't confuse RAM and ROM? But even on ROM, I don't think you could have so much free space...
I didn't do something special...
I have no idea how to make a screenshot .
My settings-memory-page:
...............Storage........Program
Total.........47,46Mb....... 49,97Mb
In Use.......3,21Mb..........16,84Mb
Free..........44,25Mb.........33,13Mb
I think yes, it was my RAM-ROM mistake... sorry.
no problem
However, I have only 44.08MB ov RAM available, no big, but it IS a difference. And for the ROM I also had never only 3MB used... (I have to admit that I never did an hardreset, because I had the opinion that o2 doesn't install so many things from ext.rom)
More RAM please...
Hello Button,
This is mime:
Storage Program
Total: 47,46 44,08
In use: 21,55 20,25
Free: 25,92 23,83
I have installed: SPB Pocket plus, PhoneAlarm, TomTom5, Sunnysoft backup, Resco Explorer, PhatPad andWiFiFofum.
Did you upgrade your ROM from this file?
ROM - Qtek_9100_RUU_Prodigy_10107105_Qtek_WWE_ship
(think is in xda - FTP, right?)
What programs do you have installed?
Regards
arp:
Yes, this prodigy rom.
I have installed:
Paragon LEng, Paragon CharMap, MDS Customization.
After SR nothing has changed...
Button
BTW, what is this ROM (OS) version? From file I can't see well... and I don't know if is newer or not.
Mine is (at boot):
ipl: 1.03
spl: 1.03
gsm: 1.4.10.0
os: 1.3.2.2
What was your original ROM? (Qtek, O2, T-Mobile, i-Mate...?)
Why you upgrade it?
Yout Total ROM is same, but RAM 44MB (mine) to 50MB (your) is more 6MB of RAM... I think I will change my ROM...
How do you made that? Only rum these .exe file?
Regards
arp
I don't remember my original rom ver., I didn't backup it, it was first Qtek UK revision. Now I have (from file you know ):
ipl: 1.01
spl: 1.01
gsm: 1.1.10.0
os: 1.1.7.5
I have really changed nothing. Just erase all progs from ext. rom.
Moreover, I've tried different roms, and always got 50 Mb as total.. May be we have some hardware differences? Look at system-about screen. I can see there:
Processor: OMAP850-195MHz
Memory: 50,00 MB
So, You?
I have a Qtek 9100 and did an upgrade with the dutch Qtek ROM.
After this I also had less ROM and RAM free.
Now I have the Imate ROM witch says it is version 1.1.9.3
Now I also have RAM 49.97 with about 25 free
and ROM 47.46
I think it depends on the type of Romversion you have.
Probably language takes some space.
I also had a lot more proceses running in the dutch ROM.
So if you want more space take the I-mate or the Qtek WWE-ROM
Well Button,
I think my ROM is newer...
How do you flash new ROM? Just "run" new rom file (after unlock CID device?)
At about screen I can see: OMAP850-195Mhz and 44.11 MB !
Somebody have 50MB too, like Button?
Regards
Related
Update: Ramdisk is no longer required if you upgrade to ROM version 1.60b96...
Because I was asked a lot for this... useful especially for WM5 version 1.60A / WorldWideEnglish.
Buzz explained to me how to convert his 96MB ramdisk into a smaller size:
1. Install the ramdisk cab and DO NOT soft reset the device
2. Go into the registry and edit the following key:
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RAMdisk]
"Size"=dword:2000000
"Address"=dword:96000000
the size is as follows: 6000000 = 96MB, 4000000 = 64MB, 2000000 = 32 MB
the address is as follows: 92000000 for 96MB, 94000000 =for 64MB, 96000000 =for 32MB
3. Soft reset the device
Remark: I am using V1.60a / 32 MB persistant ROM (16MB storage, 16MB extended ROM) that I patched to 96 MB RAM. Please see the postings below for patching instructions. With the patch my ramdisk survives softresets. You can patch your own version easily, just make sure that you patch it according to the ramdisk size you want to use.
Cheers
Pat
Re: FYI: Convert Buzz' ramdisk to 32MB size for WM5 / Magnet
pschoch said:
Because I was asked a lot for this... useful especially for WM5 version 1.60A.
Buzz explained to me how to convert his 96MB ramdisk into a smaller size:
1. Install the ramdisk cab and DO NOT soft reset the device
2. Go into the registry and edit the following key:
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RAMdisk]
"Size"=dword:4000000
the size is as follows: 6000000 = 96MB, 4000000 = 64MB, 2000000 = 32 MB
3. Soft reset the device
Remark: I am using V1.60a / 32 MB persistant RAM. The ramdisk is volatile as it uses part of the 128 MB volatile RAM of version 1.60a. Hence if you softreset your device, the ramdisk loses its contents.
Cheers
Pat
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32 Mb persistant RAM ??? How ???
16 Mb storage and 16 Mb Extrom , ou 32 Mb Storage ?
TofClock
I'm using the standard version 1.60a that has 16MB storage and 16MB extended ROM that are both persistant.
That's the great advantage of 1.60a compared to the 1.5xxx versions...
Cheers
Pat
but i thought the RAMDisk will not work with 1.60a... :shock: will it? :?:
Yes it works with size = 32MB.
I think the original 96MB size is locking-up the XDA with the 128MB ram 1.60a, but I have no issues at all with the 32MB size.
Cheers
Pat
and everything in the RAMDisk is deleted on soft reset?
thanks for the info.
deleted.
well, 1.60a + RAMDisk 64Mb is perfectfor me -- I'll have 64 Mb of space to put stuff in while I use the WiFi.
now, i just hope somebody finds a solution for the rec/cam button problem... :roll:
one thing i noticed while using RAMDisk is that the memory it allocates is not subtracted from the size of the main memory. will this be a problem? :?:
anyway, great work buzz. you're the best! :!:
Can somenone post a link or send me the ramdisk cab please ????
[email protected]
just send to u by hotmail few minutes ago
,don"t know u got it or not
cheer
Guys ..
patch first the ROM to avoid OS to use the Whole 128MB ram then change the Address and Size of Ramdisk in the registry so the content will survive in a Soft reset ..
-toe
Just a sanity check for myself, when you say 32 megs persistent you mean 16 Storage and 16 ExtRom, right? You do not mean that the two 16meg partitions have somehow been merged into one 32 meg partition and I somehow missed this event.
toenailed said:
Guys ..
patch first the ROM to avoid OS to use the Whole 128MB ram then change the Address and Size of Ramdisk in the registry so the content will survive in a Soft reset ..
-toe
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Which address? The one mention above?
simonxda said:
toenailed said:
Guys ..
patch first the ROM to avoid OS to use the Whole 128MB ram then change the Address and Size of Ramdisk in the registry so the content will survive in a Soft reset ..
-toe
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Which address? The one mention above?
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hi simonxda ..
for 96MB ramdisk
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RAMdisk]
"Size"=dword:6000000
"Address"=dword:92000000
for 64MB ramdisk
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RAMdisk]
"Size"=dword:4000000
"Address"=dword:94000000
for 32MB ramdisk
[HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RAMdisk]
"Size"=dword:2000000
"Address"=dword:96000000
for the ROM, patch it as describe by this wonderful thread of buzz d' GREAT..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23553
PS... it is ALSO work in French Magneto .. but need ADDITIONAL Tweaking .. ..
-toe
Thanks Toe
Can the 1.60a also be patched? I thought the patch only works for 1.5xxx.
Cheers
Pat
pschoch said:
Thanks Toe
Can the 1.60a also be patched? I thought the patch only works for 1.5xxx.
Cheers
Pat
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in 1.60a and French ROM you can only patched the Program Memory ..
-toe
I can't find the right address in the 1.60 in the hex editor. The address in the 1.5xxx is correct.
Is the address to be patched at a different position in the 1.60?
Pat
im currently using GPRS today but if im not mistaken it locate in offset
0x003C02F7
please check it for me ..
-toe
003C02F7 = negative, couldn't find it there...
how about 0x003C0453..
-toe
The guys at :
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=19287&catid=45
have this file:
http://buzzdev.net/components/com_simpleboard/uploaded/files/Prophet_ext_rom_unlock.rar
- unpack
- copy it over to your device
- run it
This will make your ExtendedROM writable, NOT visible.
Use TotalCommander CE to display content of your ExtendedROM for now (by entering "\Extended_Rom")
Sometimes, files in ExtendedROM are marked as READONLY and you have to clear that bit.
Does anybody has a good description of each file present in the Extended_Rom and if we can delete it or not?????
After readin that whole thread it seems some say it works some say it does not.
Can anyone confirm it works with the latest Submitter Cingular Rom? I do not want to have to reinstall everything again
I just got things perfect from the last Hard Reset I did.
I tried it on my 2.08 Qtek rom. Does not work (YET as Buzz is still trying!)
This was merely a test version btw.
I flashed my Qtek s200 with the lastest dopod rom (from the ftp page) then did a soft reset just before customisation begins (preventing the extrom files from loading - I don't use MMS or smartdialing).
Copy buzznet's prophet extrom exe onto your device and run it (You should get a little popup saying "success"). I can't view the extrom files and the memory settings are still the same but my system runs a lot faster and I've gone from having to do a soft reset almost twice a day to once every 5 or 6 days!! (I run a large program thats eats up RAM).
It seems so much more stable, reponsive and quicker
Hope this helps......
G
garywiscombe said:
I flashed my Qtek s200
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This is why this stuff gets dangerous. The s200 is not the same as the Wizard from what I understand. Folks read things like this in what is a Wizard specific forum and think it's really working. On the buzzdev forums they seem to say it works on Prophet based devices and not on wizards.
That is why I asked here on a wizard specific forum about anyone having success.
From Bootloader / ROM structure perpective the Prophet and Wizard are said to be similar.
Buzz has developed his tool without any of these devices so hes still in a test phase.
Worked For me
with the last RRU Qtek IPL 2.15 Radio 2.30
Thanks
Herc.
XDA II
Hi guys
I tried it but it gives me message that it is not a valied Pocket PC application
the ExtROM version is 2.06 from PDAMobiz.com
my t-mobile wing only has 3mb of ram left on it i cant even open the camara.can someone plz tell me how to free up more ram plz. thank you
go find oxio hibernate and run that. or soft reset. or use USPL to flash a new rom. it's all good
Hey guys and gals.
I've just got an i-mate pocket pc and I want to upgrade it to wm6.
I started out looking in the official places (club i-mate etc.) and flashed it with the latest firmware available there, but unfortunately it's still wm2003.
From what I've read here and on buzzdev.net I'm guessing it's considered a himalaya, but I really have no clue what that means.
Info on the device is:
Version:
ROM version: 1.72.00WWE
ROM date: 03/15/04
Radio version: 1.14.00
Protocol version: 1337.24
ExtROM version: 1.72.800
Hardware:
CPU: Intel(R) PXA263
Speed: 400 MHz
RAM size: 128 MB
Flash size: 32 MB
Flash chip type: 28F128K3
Data bus: 32 bits
Storage size: 14.75 MB
LCD: 240 x 320 TFT
Colors: 65536
Identity:
Model No.: PH10B
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 3159***********
Or at least that's what the OS reports.
When I opened it up to clean it I noticed it had HTC chips in it so I don't know...
Any info as to where to start and what I need to know before I do would be appreciated.
P.S. I've attached a photo of it if it'll help with identification.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387451
the rom packet include a readme text file which describe step by step how you do it
Ah... Thanks.
Just a quick Q:
What ROM packet should I download?
**EDIT
Nevermind that... I'm downloading the ROM packet now...
Thanks again
hi
did u mangage to do it ? as i have same xda o2 ii
Yeah... I did manage to upgrade... It's fairly simple if you just follow the instructions in the rom packet step by step
wots wm6 speed like , i got mine running wm 5
my only prob is extrom i dont undetrstand it
i have a extrom folder on my sd card
but extrom version on my device info is blank
i ran unlock hide, unlcoker ,,, now i have 30mb space for persistant store i presume ?
but like 40/60mb ram disk which i never install apps to ... can i move /repartition this for disk space ?
cv65user said:
wots wm6 speed like , i got mine running wm 5
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It's a LOT quicker than wm2003. Unfortunately I've never used wm5 on this device so i can't compare
cv65user said:
my only prob is extrom i dont undetrstand it
i have a extrom folder on my sd card
but extrom version on my device info is blank
i ran unlock hide, unlcoker ,,, now i have 30mb space for persistant store i presume ?
but like 40/60mb ram disk which i never install apps to ... can i move /repartition this for disk space ?
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From what i understand, the extrom is used to automatically install the applications inside it when the device is reset or loses it's memory.
The extrom version on your device is blank because that section of the rom was added to the main rom storage area to make space for wm5/6.
I don't know about removing the ramdisk but it was mentioned somewhere in the thread Rudegar pointed me to (see above)
You Want more Memory Storage in your Device?
1 method:
Instal this program from attach., and you will have more memory storage on your Device.
Please, tested this and give to me results, but first you see Storage memory if you have, prior to installation.
If something does not work, talk and improved.
Have Fun
2 method:
Get CeRegEditor, install to PC, then change two key in your registry Device.
Connect device to PC, and get connections in CeRegEditor <-> TG01.
Search Key -> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\Relfsd and change Bootphase=dword:1 to "Bootphase"=dword:2
Next
Search Key -> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\MSFlash\IMGFS and change "MountHidden"=dword:1 to "MountHidden"=dword:0
Cheers
Nokser said:
You Want more Memory Storage in your Device?
Instal this program, and you will have more memory storage on your Device.
Please, tested this and give to me results, but first you see Storage memory if you have, prior to installation.
If something does not work, talk and improved.
Have Fun
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Give us some more details, pls...
Nokser said:
You Want more Memory Storage in your Device?
Instal this program, and you will have more memory storage on your Device.
Please, tested this and give to me results, but first you see Storage memory if you have, prior to installation.
If something does not work, talk and improved.
Have Fun
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Installation unsucessful (ffboy v2beta ROM).
i reupload file, try this now, please.
bib*oops said:
Give us some more details, pls...
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This Tool unlock extROM
The installation was successful on FFBOY'S ROM WM6.5.5 CE OS 5.2.2 23563 V1.0 but the total space of storage and program are the same.
Ok i rebuild this apps...
wow, very nice work.
But i have your rom so it's normaly
Nokser said:
You Want more Memory Storage in your Device?
Instal this program, and you will have more memory storage on your Device.
Please, tested this and give to me results, but first you see Storage memory if you have, prior to installation.
If something does not work, talk and improved.
Have Fun
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Hi Nokser,
Looks really useful I've installed on my WM6.5 debranded ROM (similar to arag0n85's original, but done completely from scratch; some more stuff removed, but also some items he'd taken out retained). Here is the result:
Code:
Storage Memory Programe Memory
Before After Before After
Total 262.53 262.53 205.10 205.10
Used 21.57 21.80 131.57 117.82
Free 240.96 240.73 73.53 87.28 +18.7% improvement !
Hope you don't mind some questions, but....
- How did you discover this ?
- Is it a one off or do you think there is potential to extract even more useable space in a similar manner ?
- Is it viable to build in the Reg entries direct into a cooked ROM or does it need to be applied after initial boot to be effective ?
Many thanks,
Ok tested now, i rebuild this apps...
Now I have Storage 277MB
Your version where you upload at time (the only cab) does not work to install for me. But the version in the zip works fine and i have 277.47 MB.
Ram usage was not so more because i have the november5 rom vers.4 and here it is more than enotgh free ^^
ALcAtRas500 said:
Your version where you upload at time (the only cab) does not work to install for me. But the version in the zip works fine and i have 277.47 MB.
Ram usage was not so more because i have the november5 rom vers.4 and here it is more than enotgh free ^^
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And how much did you have before installing?
262.41 MB and with your tool is 12 MB more ^^
Yes, this is good results
ALcAtRas500 said:
Your version where you upload at time (the only cab) does not work to install for me. But the version in the zip works fine and i have 277.47 MB.
Ram usage was not so more because i have the november5 rom vers.4 and here it is more than enotgh free ^^
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Same problem with the .cab file. Looked at the _setup.xml and suspect may be encoding wrong format ? But not sure about the syntax within, so guess you will be able to quickly see what is the issue....
kevinpwhite said:
Same problem with the .cab file. Looked at the _setup.xml and suspect may be encoding wrong format ? But not sure about the syntax within, so guess you will be able to quickly see what is the issue....
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You tested this now?? I give to first post new Upload ...
ALcAtRas500 said:
Your version where you upload at time (the only cab) does not work to install for me. But the version in the zip works fine and i have 277.47 MB.
Ram usage was not so more because i have the november5 rom vers.4 and here it is more than enotgh free ^^
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If I am not mistaken my rom already had 277.47 MB total storage and 268.25 MB free. See Here
Nokser said:
You tested this now?? I give to first post new Upload ...
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Hi, yes just tried the latest edition - is same Storage as before (262.53 MB) >> Program is strangeley a tad less than the first time at 84.56 free of 205.10 rather than 87. something.<< EDIT - just checked with CERegEditor and found that the first key was still on orig value; changed manually and am now getting 87MB Program free again.
Presume that my WM6.5 ROM is 'different' to the 6.5.x versions and thus can't get the benefit on the Storage as well as the Program ?
nosker u you know what the tradeoff is ? we are clearly giving something for something , where are thoose mb's coming from ?
Sry November5 i have think that i have only 262 MB that's comes i mean about the many flashes that i have make ^^ I Have test all you roms from ver. 1 bis ver. 4 and other from arag0n85. It's a mistake from me. Sry i love your roms