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I'm trying to unlock the extended rom on my MDA Compact. I've downloaded extrom tools, but whenever I try anything, I get an error saying 'FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION'. Is there some sort of hardware jumper perhaps stopping me from unlocking the extended rom?
Echilon said:
I'm trying to unlock the extended rom on my MDA Compact. I've downloaded extrom tools, but whenever I try anything, I get an error saying 'FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION'. Is there some sort of hardware jumper perhaps stopping me from unlocking the extended rom?
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hello!
ur MDA compact is it same with xda2 mini ???
What exactly do you mean with unlocking? If you only want to see the contents of the Ext_Rom, you have to do a hard reset and, before adjusting the Touchscreen, a soft reset. After the reboot you should be able to see the files. This might not work for newer Roms. Another possibility would be to use the Vdisk program. Search here in the forum.
If you want to write onto your Ext_Rom, meaning to free its space for additional storage (the files saved in the Ext_Rom will be deleted by this procedure - as I remember also the content of your storage), you have to follow this link
Dandie said:
What exactly do you mean with unlocking? If you only want to see the contents of the Ext_Rom, you have to do a hard reset and, before adjusting the Touchscreen, a soft reset. After the reboot you should be able to see the files. This might not work for newer Roms. Another possibility would be to use the Vdisk program. Search here in the forum.
If you want to write onto your Ext_Rom, meaning to free its space for additional storage (the files saved in the Ext_Rom will be deleted by this procedure - as I remember also the content of your storage), you have to follow this link
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thanks!!!
but i still cant get wat i wan !!! anywhere thanks for ur help if any news things or u get the information for unlock the xda2mini extrom pls tell me !!! thanks u very much !!!!!
Did you read the posts in the link I referred to? There's information about how to make the Ext_Rom writable. Is that what you mean?
Thanks for the link, but I don't want to downgrade just to unlock it. I was thinking I could just delete all of the automatic T-Mobile customization.
Downgrade to unlock it? What do you mean? You can patch every Rom version to the BigStorage one, making the storage of the Ext_Rom writable. If you only want to get rid of the branding and automatic installation of the provider specific software, you have to make a HardReset and, right after the touchscreen calibration, a soft reset. That removes all branding and you can see the Ext_Rom in your file browser.
unlock extrom
Dandie said:
Downgrade to unlock it? What do you mean? You can patch every Rom version to the BigStorage one, making the storage of the Ext_Rom writable. If you only want to get rid of the branding and automatic installation of the provider specific software, you have to make a HardReset and, right after the touchscreen calibration, a soft reset. That removes all branding and you can see the Ext_Rom in your file browser.
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hello !!!
I mean i want to unlock my extrom for delete some useless cab file
and put in some cab file automatic install when im hardreset i can moditfy my config.txt to make it automatic install ! thanks and can u upload BigStorage installer for me ?? i cant download from ftp!!! thanks u very much dandie!!!
Anybody can tell me how to unlock extend rom?thanks.
Sorry, i make a mistake!
Have the hermes ext rom ulocker been tested on an artemis? Earlier attempts with wizard ext rom unlocker on artemis managed to unlock the extended rom for a short while (at least made contents visible though not really removable)...but after soft resets strange things would happen with the extended rom...it would sometimes be visible and at other times not.
Has the hermes ext rom unlocker been tested for stability on the artemis? Does it allow use of the extended rom or just visibility?
Looking forward to your answer.
wlinsong said:
HERMES_MountALLExtROM.cab
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
[*]HERMES_MountExtROM.cab
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well mr "moderator" wlinsong,
how about checking on the info you spread!?
WRONG WRONG, WRONG, not functioning!
The versions you are claiming to unlock the extrom have more than once screwed up the extroms of the people using them. afaik, the cited versions allow you to see the extrom, fiddle with it, and once you reboot the machine your extrom is screwed up, or rather not loading on reset any more.
there are numerous cases of users cited on this forum who experienced so!
wlinsong said:
HTC Hermes' Extended ROM Unlocker can Unlocking HTC Artemis ROMs
HERMES_MountALLExtROM.cab
HERMES_MountExtROM_v2.cab
HERMES_MountExtROM.cab
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They are all not make unlocked Rom, i am all tested.
Sorry
The ExtROM unlocker by Buzz for the Universal (see Universal topics) works on both my Universal and Artemis.
After unlocking you need to unhide the ExtROM, by doing the following in the register:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
Bootphase=dword:2
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
MountHidden=dword:0
JayRay's solution not working for me
JayRay,
I tried your suggestion but the external rom remains unlocked. As usual, to start with it looks like you can write files to external rom but after a soft reset they are all gone.
Let me know if you manage to have a stable unlocked rom.
Same here (T-mob NL). The utility from Buzz doesn't give a popup message either, does it run on the artemis properly anyway?
apap said:
JayRay,
I tried your suggestion but the external rom remains unlocked. As usual, to start with it looks like you can write files to external rom but after a soft reset they are all gone.
Let me know if you manage to have a stable unlocked rom.
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Weird...
The ExtROM became visible by applying the reg tweaks I mentioned before, and I used the Uni ExtROM unlocker to try to unlock it.
The popup message that appeared on my Uni didn't come on the Artemis, but after clicking on the file I just went through a soft reset.
That was all. The ExtROM was really unlocked and still visible.... and seems to stay that way.
A good way to test if it's really unlocked is to try and install a program (cab) into the extrom. If you can install it and the program works then you are clearly unlocked. Have you done this?
Thanx
apap said:
A good way to test if it's really unlocked is to try and install a program (cab) into the extrom. If you can install it and the program works then you are clearly unlocked. Have you done this?
Thanx
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And soft-reset after you copied the cab!.. For me, with each "hack", i can see and acces the Extrom, but after a soft reset everything is reverted..
apap said:
A good way to test if it's really unlocked is to try and install a program (cab) into the extrom. If you can install it and the program works then you are clearly unlocked. Have you done this?
Thanx
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Yes, unlocked is unlocked.
I have WorldMate Pro, PocketXpdf, psShutXP and TCPMP installed in the ExtRom, as well as a few MP3 ringtones.
@all,
how about just doing it the way I stated here? :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290132
JayRayMee.NL said:
Weird...
The ExtROM became visible by applying the reg tweaks I mentioned before, and I used the Uni ExtROM unlocker to try to unlock it.
The popup message that appeared on my Uni didn't come on the Artemis, but after clicking on the file I just went through a soft reset.
That was all. The ExtROM was really unlocked and still visible.... and seems to stay that way.
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Hi JayRayMee
Some Noob questions
After you unlock and unhide the EXTRom, how did you add the programs that you like. Is it just copying the cab files onto the EXTRom? How do you remove programs that you dont like? And is there a way to hide it again after you add up your programs?
Cheers
nm8 said:
Hi JayRayMee
Some Noob questions
After you unlock and unhide the EXTRom, how did you add the programs that you like. Is it just copying the cab files onto the EXTRom? How do you remove programs that you dont like? And is there a way to hide it again after you add up your programs?
Cheers
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The ExtROM, once unlocked, just behaves like any other SD card storage.
By reversing the reg tweaks as mentioned before, you can hide the ExtROM again.
It seems adap is right. It turns out the Ext_ROM is'nt accessable after one more softreset, strange but true. Shame on me!
So be warned!!
Hello!
Been fiddling around with a Prophet today and found this tutorial to unhide and unlock the Ext_Rom of the Prophet. So I wonder if this will work on our beloved device too.
Well...what can I say...IT WORKED!!!
Ext_Rom is now visible under the name given, it's 8 Mb of size and full read/write accessable.
Just follow the the steps HERE.
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To safe you from trouble the changes don't work...keep in mind to turn off (standby) the PDA for a few seconds (30 s will do) before softreset.
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Credits go to the guys from the Prophet section of this forum.
...bye DonQ
It would certainly be great if we are able to unhide and unlock the extended rom.
Since we have had problems in the past with theories of unlocking the extended rom that turned out to unhide the rom for a short while only to be hidden after a soft reset and with irreversible problems...can anyone say for sure that it works and stays ok after a soft reset?
I tried it and at least on my device it did not work. It revealed the Extended Storage card but it was not possible to view contents or to copy contents onto the extended rom. I should note, that I had tried earlier to unlock/unhide with a cab file so I may have messed up my extended storage.
If any one succeeds please let us know.
its all done already:
look at posts here, editability working look post 8!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290132
greetz
Hello Thomdac,
I have followed above procedure and am able to see contents but they are not editable and I cannot copy cabs to the external rom. Actually the behavior is somewhat quirky...I have managed to copy some of the files from external rom to another place but I cannot remove any cabs/files from the external rom or copy new files to the external rom. In short it seems possible to unhide the external rom but not to unlock it. Please let me know if this is your experience.
Thanks,
@apap
same here. very strange thing
Hello!
With the above procedure I was able to rename files in Ext_ROM + copy a file from \My Document to \Ext_ROM.
But after a further softreset the Ext_ROM was gone.
Will try the methode to recover the Ext_ROM soon.
...bye DonQ
hello everyone!
i am running wm06 for a while now and have to admit, its fckng great!
i upgraded from wm2003 directly to wm06, so its like two different worlds...
but when i was upgrading, i did not manage to merge the extrom with the rest of the storage, the unhide and unlock thing just didn't work!
but as i am now sure, that i wont need to roll back to 2003 again, merging the extrom with the rest of the storage would only make it better, no disadvantages, am i right?
or am i needing the extrom in wm06?
how is it used in wm06?
or is it just wasted space....?
as u can easily see, i am still a little confused about all that....
here are some specs from my device:
ROM Version: 5.60.00 WWE
ROM Date: 03/02/05
Radio Version: 1.15.00
Protocol Version: 1337.45
ExtROM Version: - (nothing here...??? is that bad??)
STORAGE:
total: 42,92MB
in use: 28,26MB
free: 14,66MB
PROGRAM:
total: 109,12MB
in use: 40,23MB
free: 68,90MB
thx for any help,
regards,
krz
ExtROM: Extended ROM - is the section of the ROM which the distributor of the phone (eg O2, T-Mobile, iMate, etc) store their customization (eg Today theme, ring tones, extra software) data.
In WM2003 you may found your phone having hardreset quite often - thats because WM2003 use RAM as program-storage (RAM lose everything when battery is drained)
In WM5/6 you are not using RAM as a storage anymore thus not performing hardreset often (typically once during flash)
By performing ExtROM merge, you're going to have extra MB in storage. There is NO DISADVANTAGE.
Those who prefer to have an ExtROM for whatever reason (they may HardReset their phone quite often because of testing/developing/whatever) place the "ExtROM" folder in Storage Card (Memory card/SD/MMC) and after HR it gets installed as usual. Or you can install fixes and addons "one by one".
Read more information here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand
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To sum it up :
You dont need to merge your ExtROM (it cost you some MB)
* How to merge / is here : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardMain
thx a lot for your answer, kerio...!!
if i understood you right, the EXTROM is of NO USE at all in WM06.
so if not merged before upgrading, it will be just invisible and unused space.... am i right?
if so, i would of course prefer to merge the EXTROM with the rest of the storage to gain more free megabytes....
will the total storage size be 60,3MB after merging, like i have seen in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326515 ?!?
is it possible to merge the EXTROM after having WM06 installed?
can i merge EXTROM without reinstalling WM06 and all programs?
btw: unhiding and unlocking is NOT working on my device....
when clicking UNHIDE, nothing happens,
when clicking UNLOCK i get the following error:
Code:
ERROR: FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION - The parameter is incorrect.
what am i doing wrong??
i know, that are a lot of questions, but i would be very thankful if someone could help me with that...
thx in advance!
regards,
krz
bump bump
I would also be interested if somebody suuggests new solutions for "big storage" as my device does accept unlock and unhide, but when using "repart_DOC.exe" it gives me errors and eosn't repartition the ROM...
Downgrade to WM2003 , play da game and flash to wm6
Xeon's got the idea. You will need to to downgrade to WM2003, unlock, unhide and repartition the extrom. Once complete then flash up to the WM6.
I had to do the same thing, as I had not correctly repartitioned the extrom when I moved up too WM5. Good luck.
hello and thx a lot for all your ansers!
how many MBs will I gain from merging EXTROM?
and is there a way to use that space without merging?
anyone knows??
i have wm2003 and i can't unhide , unlock, or format doc, cos everytime i'm trying i can see , FL_IOCTL_BDTL_HW_PROTECTION the parameter is incorrect, can anyone help me?
Nicolfa said:
Xeon's got the idea. You will need to to downgrade to WM2003, unlock, unhide and repartition the extrom. Once complete then flash up to the WM6.
I had to do the same thing, as I had not correctly repartitioned the extrom when I moved up too WM5. Good luck.
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We got the point now.
Advise the wiki should be revised as so many people are confusing about the ExtROM.
Thanks
Dear tangwd898,
lol
Have you ever read the wiki? Could you give me the parts where "you must revert back to WM2003" is missing?
kerio said:
Dear tangwd898,
lol
Have you ever read the wiki? Could you give me the parts where "you must revert back to WM2003" is missing?
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Dear kerio,
I did read the Wiki regarding the ExtROM for more than 3 three times, I can't get any informations that we can't modify the ExtROM in OS wm5.0 or wm6.0 from the thread - Understanding the Blue Angle Extended ROM:-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Understand
Understanding the Blue Angle Extended ROM
The Extended ROM is shipped as ms_.nbf and loaded with the BaUpgradeUt.exe
The ms_.nbf is extracted during the Upgrade and written to folder \Extended_Rom
The \Extended_Rom folder is hidden and read only
The Extended ROM can un hidden with the following tool Unlock tool
The Extended ROM is limited to 16MB in size
The Numbering of the Extended ROM is operator dependent:
Thus a QTEK version 1.22.225 might or might not have higher patches than a I-Mate version 1.22.62
Extended ROMs are built around the major OS release (1.22, 1.31)
It is NOT advisable to install cabs from a Extended ROM if the Windows Mobile 2003 Version are not the same
It is NOT advisable to install patches if the CE versions (1.22, 1.31) are different.
(They might have already been included in that CE version.)
Execution of the Extended ROM
CheckAutorun.exe (which is started from \Windows\Startup\CheckAutorun.lnk) executes the AutoRun.exe
AutoRun.exe is found in the \Extended_Rom Folder
AutoRun.exe reads the \Extended_Rom\Config.txt and executes the commnands in that file
The pointer for AutoRun.exe HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AutoRun is set to \Extended_ROM\AutoRun
The pointer for Config.txt HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\AutoRunCFG is set to \Extended_ROM\AutoRunCFG
The Touch screen is disabled by the first command (TPDisable.exe)in the Config.txt
The Touch screen is enabled by the 2nd to last command (TPEnable.exe)in the Config.txt
The last Command of the config.txt (RST) performs a soft reset
Content of the Extended ROM
The Extended ROM consists of System files (TPDisable.exe, TPEnable.exe, AutoRun.exe, Config.txt)
The Extended ROM consists of *.CAB installation files
The installation files fall into the following types
Applications: Album, Fax, Zip
Patches for the Hardware: Button9 on the Hardware Keyboard
Patches for the software: Blue tooth upgrade
Provider specific files and programs: Splash screen, Internet Explorer defaults, telco settings, etc.
Effects of a Hard Reset
A Hard Reset will NOT re-extract the ms_.nbf
A Hard Reset will reload the contents of the \Extended_Rom folder
A Hard Reset will reload the OS and thus also clean the registry
Why is this of interest to me?
The Extended ROM can be cooked (Customize the ROM to your own liking)
What ever you put in the \Extended_Rom folder will remain even after a Hard Reset
The \Storage will not be overwritten on a Hard Reset
Thus one is able to keep CAB files on \Storage for automatic reinstallation after a Hard Reset
You can keep your "customized" Extended ROM and only perform a OS or Radio Upgrade
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"you must revert back to WM2003" - may be found at other threads but i think this thread "Understanding the Blue Angle Extended ROM" should include this message.
Thank you.
I dont think so
When performing upgrade you should follow the instruction (WM5 and WM6 pages) when you dont - then you may find yourself in trouble.
1. The main page is only for WM2003
2. Error message -> google -> sollution (30sec)
3. You can add it to the wiki (anyone can)
Effects of a Hard Reset
A Hard Reset will NOT re-extract the ms_.nbf
A Hard Reset will reload the contents of the \Extended_Rom folder
A Hard Reset will reload the OS and thus also clean the registry
Why is this of interest to me?
The Extended ROM can be cooked (Customize the ROM to your own liking)
What ever you put in the \Extended_Rom folder will remain even after a Hard Reset The \Storage will not be overwritten on a Hard Reset
Thus one is able to keep CAB files on \Storage for automatic reinstallation after a Hard Reset
You can keep your "customized" Extended ROM and only perform a OS or Radio Upgrade
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I still have some questions:-
- Why my *.cab files in the extROM folder all missing after i done a hard Reset?
- How to keep all *.cab files in the ExtROM folder after the hard reset?
Thank you.
Guys and Gals
The BA Wiki was started over 2 years or more ago by a new guy on the forum who trying to work out how to get his German MDAIII flashed with an English rom.
He wrote it in order that the information was found in one place as he found it hard to find it in all the threads, this finding problem is still true today.
Well as you see times have changed and the porblems of WM5 and WM6 were not know at that time and as you also see not many people have bothered to invest time back into documneting in wiki. Its become more of a get and ***** about wiki not being updated than a give back some of the time in searching the threads and update wiki for the next person.
Some were in the begining it says if you don't like what you read then fix it.
This is best done by those people that are going through the learning curve as they read Wiki and they should beable to correct / add / embelish on what is written and what needs to be said.
Its a thought.
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I still have some questions:-
- Why my *.cab files in the extROM folder all missing after i done a hard Reset?
- How to keep all *.cab files in the ExtROM folder after the hard reset?
Thank you.
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Misson impossible is that type of Cab file that is no longer there after a hard reset (or when they are executed) as they delete themselves.
Change the properties to read only will solve that.
Check out the kitchen
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_ERK_Things2know
Hi, i unlock athena with olipro unlocker. It give me no error, but i still cant acces to extrom. I can only unhide it and copy files, but after reset it is same. I cant install some roms, because it starts extroms cabs and in come cases it goes to restart looping. I treid find some unlock tool, but only i find was athena_ext_rom_unlock.rar file and link wasnt work. Can anyone has this file? Or plain extrom? I would like to flash irus vanilla SPL1.2 - PP 0MB, but due to extrom i cant.