Hi.
I dont know what is causing it, but it seems, that my SPV M1000 is REALLY SLOW on some occasions.
Having unlocked it, and after that installed tomtom2. I've been using it, and can see that there are problems with the update rate, etc.
there is a 32MB SC/MMC card installed.
Device info says:
Operater version: 3.66.4.150
ROM version : 1.66.00WWE
ROM date : 02/20/04
Radio Version : 1.10.00
Protocol version : 1337.18
ExtROM version : 1.66.150
it was unlocked with xdaUnlock2
The problem is that it appears flakey, sometimes it works flawlessly, and other times it comes to stuttering/ laggy halt. Even using the contact list showed lagginess (I think tomtom2 was running in the background), in that the lines in the contact list was updated one at a time, with around 1-3 seconds between each update..., updates on the tomtom2 map appears to take forever sometimes, and this can happen at both max and min zoom levels (although the problem is most apparent at min zoom levels).
Does anyone know a cure, or have experienced something similar? Would it help to install tomtom3? (some says its more reliable, but I've seen others using tomtom3, where a land mass became a swampy area ... well at least at some of the highest zoom-out levels.
Thank you for your time.
Best regards : Jacob Eskildsen / eskildsen
I don't know.. ever since I got my brand new O2 Exec I've been getting less and less productive in work. The machine is indeed cool, but only when it works. I'm early adapter but it's been for the past month or so that I'm working for the machine instead of the machine working for me.
Memory leaks are out of this world. Memory is not freed up many times and I end up easily with 3mb of free ram even if no program is on. The battery life is terrible (to say the least) compared to my good old PDA2K (even with it's over 1yrs old battery! it blasts the Exec memory miles away)
Lately, the amount of lockups I am getting is simply unbearable. machine freezes.. sometimes the left soft button's caption (i.e "phone") graphics is seen like a small white box or something(as if all the letter go over each other) and then machine freezes. Something an alert comes up and then machine freezes. I can't trust the machine for business use, for games yes, but not for business.
Please note I don't have many programs running at all, no wisbar or cosmetic stuff like that., no SPB Plus and stuff like that. Just PocketInformant, PocketBreeze, phoneAlarm all of which are must have for me as well as some utils i relay on. I am wondering maybe my ROM is outdated, but I didn't see an update from O2 yet (I don't want to install NO_ID tool and flush other roms than OS own due to warrenty issues)
I have OS2 Exec with following ver:
ROM version: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM date: 11/30/05
Radio version: 1.04.02
Protocol version: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
Is there any Official update from O2 to any of these ?
Help is very much appreciated. That's before a 10kg hammer is blaster over the machine in an act of anger.. lol
MOBILER
Here are my suggestions:
1st Upgrade to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. It is definitely faster than the shipped ROM from O2 and highly stable.
ROM version: 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date: 02/20/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: Delete and install only what you need.
2nd I use Oxios Memory which has 2 useful applications in it. Oxios Close apps and Oxios Hibernate. I learned about this here in one of the forums. It basically free up a substantial amount of unused memory. Here is a link: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As far as battery is concerned. I don't have a problem with mine. I keep it plugged in every night to charge playing a lecture DVD while I sleep.
So far O2 has not released an update yet. The last official ROM they released, I believe you are already using it. Let us hope when they do release something it would have the complete Windows Mobile Update support for BT headsets and Push email.
cktlcmd said:
Here are my suggestions:
1st Upgrade to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. It is definitely faster than the shipped ROM from O2 and highly stable.
ROM version: 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date: 02/20/06
Radio version: 1.09.00
Protocol version: 42.42.P8
ExtROM version: Delete and install only what you need.
2nd I use Oxios Memory which has 2 useful applications in it. Oxios Close apps and Oxios Hibernate. I learned about this here in one of the forums. It basically free up a substantial amount of unused memory. Here is a link: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
As far as battery is concerned. I don't have a problem with mine. I keep it plugged in every night to charge playing a lecture DVD while I sleep.
So far O2 has not released an update yet. The last official ROM they released, I believe you are already using it. Let us hope when they do release something it would have the complete Windows Mobile Update support for BT headsets and Push email.
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Thanks man, I highly appreciate your detailed helpful response, but two issues :
1) As I said, I do not want to install the i-mate JJ ROM over the O2 one due to warrenty issues. So I think I would prefer to wait for the official O2 release thought I am starting to loose patience..
2) I also use the MagicButton app on my Exec. It seems very efficient at closing programs and switching tasks with minimal memory footprint. I'll look into the program you mentioned, but I doubt that's the problem. My machine has memory leaks because even when programs are all closed after several hours of use I can get down to 3mb free RAM.
Regards
MOBILER
Do you use the brilliant SBSH Ilauncher as this has very bad memory leaks being looked into at the moment
@mobiler,
we must have twins! I have mentioned similar problems with my Exec to those you discovered and when I reported them here people were unhappy and accused me of not knowing how to use a Exec properly!
You may want to look at the following:
1. Powersave does reduce battery drain but you may a slight delay to being alterted to incoming calls
2. Reformat your SD card if you use data files (eg music, ebooks etc) a lot. I found that MS Reader and Windows Media player were not happy with the use of Powersave - often I would get a systems crash after restarting the device. But after a reformat of the SD card the device was much more stable
3. You can get good quality spare batteries now for the Universal from www.mobilefun.co.uk
I had a few issues with PhoneAlarm, nice piece of software does exactly what I wanted as well, apart from I had some compatability issues.
Slowed the phone down alot and if my memory serves me correctly ( I have a few too many memory leaks of my own going on ) made the phone freeze a couple of times.
Tried the trial version of Pocket Informant ( had it as standard on an IPAQ HX4700 and quite liked it ) but that caused me a few problems.
I now keep things simple, using PocketZenPhone for switching profiles ( very nice and simple solution ). Use the O2 web site to keep track of number of txts sent and phone call allowance.
SPBGPRS monitor for the obvious monitoring of GPRS usage.
Using the standard contacts and calender ( does me ok but not as flexible )
And I have just started messing about with Wisbar, No problems as off yet.
Personally I have found all problems with the phone are linked to software incompatabilities.
I am still in warrenty with O2 but have updated to the latest ROM and radio and if for any reason it has to go back I will try and flash back but my way of thinking is that I should be allowed to change to any ROM image I want in the same way as load any software I want.
Dont know if that is of any help at all, just my views on trying the same software. Regardless of how good they are, they caused problems for me so now I dont use them and everything seems to be running ok.
I know this is anachistic but I am also annoyed by the occasional reboot and have discovered (shock horror) that having as few TSRs running (i.e. none) as possible much reduces this. I used to run magic button and I am convinced that this caused the occasional lockup. These days I only have vbar (2.2) installed and run it at times of need (i.e. I don't run it all the time) as well as using the memory item in the settings to kill programs.
Running the virgin corporate install o2 ROM with no TSRs. Using PIE and Netfront, and the built in outlook, together with a number of games, has meant that my xda is quite reliable. I am hoping that my 'once every 2-3 days reboot' will be gone once the new xda rom comes out :shock:
I can also recommend memmaid to occasionally clear our broken registry settings.
WM5 has been a painfull experience for the PDA manufacturers. If you think we are having a bad time you should read the stuff about the dell axim x50 upgrade on aximsite. I am hoping that WM5.1 will be a free install for universal users as this will make the os more robust.
On an optimistic note the chipset employed by the universal is well used and very reliable in many applications, the construction is robust, so IMHO it all comes down to software/firmware which we hope will improve.
I suppose that is what I was getting at.
Keep it simple.
Whether it is a stability problem with WM5 or just the third party software solutions I dont know.
But when I keep it simple, it works and works well.
I never mentioned battery life earlier, this weekend I went away with a full charge, granted I took another smaller phone with me but I did use it quite heavily ( playing Bejewelled, surfing the net and sending MMS ) and it was always on .
This morning it was on about 40% charged. Not too bad I thought compared to previous Windows Mobile phones I have had.
I use memmaid as well to do a bit of house keeping.
I was using spbPocketPlus mainly for its Task Handling, but thought I would give WisBar a shot. Having a proper close option to hand is very handy and should be included as a standard option in any version of Windows Mobile.
If I am not using a program I want it to be shut down properly. Like using a PC I only have the programs running that I am using.
FWIW, I am new to this device, but not to PPC, so I am familiar with minimize/close distinction. My orange SPV M5000 loses about .3MB per program invocation. I shut down programs using either the program's own Exit function (where it exists) or the Memory tab in the settings area. But the memory is slowly eroded. The worst culprit is Activesync to my laptop, that consumes around 5MB that never comes back. After a soft reset there is about 23MB free, this quickly drops to around 18, then steadily drops. Something in the OS is not releasing memory. I have to soft reset to get the memory back (which takes about 3 minutes).
I suppose that is what I was getting at.
Keep it simple.
Whether it is a stability problem with WM5 or just the third party software solutions I dont know.
But when I keep it simple, it works and works well.
I never mentioned battery life earlier, this weekend I went away with a full charge, granted I took another smaller phone with me but I did use it quite heavily ( playing Bejewelled, surfing the net and sending MMS ) and it was always on .
This morning it was on about 40% charged. Not too bad I thought compared to previous Windows Mobile phones I have had.
I use memmaid as well to do a bit of house keeping.
I was using spbPocketPlus mainly for its Task Handling, but thought I would give WisBar a shot. Having a proper close option to hand is very handy and should be included as a standard option in any version of Windows Mobile.
If I am not using a program I want it to be shut down properly. Like using a PC I only have the programs running that I am using.
Have you tried using the Exec in Corporate mode? It works fine for me
@ChristopherTD, I setup a dummy Activesync server and then set Activesync to manual and I have found this make my Exec more stable - perhaps it is because it does not lose as much RAM as before.
It is surprising that after 6/9 months of WM5 availability that we are still having instability problems with major/popular WM5 apps. I only use GSPMagic, Agenda Fusion, MS Reader and Opera. Only GSPMagic and AgendaFusion have been trouble-free.
WM5 was intended for programs to keep running. I know we like to hack our machines to death + sometimes the memory gets too full and you have to kill stuff. But sometimes if you keep MS stuff running, and don't kill it all the time with something like magic button, you find the system runs better.
I have activesync, contacts, outlook and PIE open all the time. I used to kill activesync all the time and I think this caused problems.
Normally my games have proper exit buttons, together with pRSSReader (totally excellent program). For the MS built in programs I tend to leave them running as the OS was designed for this.
Wow I think its pretty clear I ended up with a good unit afterall, either that or o2 really really messed up with your ROMS.
I have to charge my battery every night but thats to be expected with the usage I have. And im running Wisbar Lite, PhoneAlarm, PocketBreeze, and Wisbar Advance Desktop, all no worries, the only time I notice a distinct loss of memory is after player Warring Nations.
I feel for you guys, I think your summing it up that your working on your device as opposed to it working for you says it all.
Thanks for all the responses. You're all great guys!
Please see my responses below to all suggestions:
Darren_Bridgeland said:
Do you use the brilliant SBSH Ilauncher as this has very bad memory leaks being looked into at the moment
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Thanks, but no. I don't use SBSH Ilauncher. I use MagicButton which has a minimum memory footprint
jah said:
@mobiler,
we must have twins! I have mentioned similar problems with my Exec to those you discovered and when I reported them here people were unhappy and accused me of not knowing how to use a Exec properly!
You may want to look at the following:
1. Powersave does reduce battery drain but you may a slight delay to being alterted to incoming calls
2. Reformat your SD card if you use data files (eg music, ebooks etc) a lot. I found that MS Reader and Windows Media player were not happy with the use of Powersave - often I would get a systems crash after restarting the device. But after a reformat of the SD card the device was much more stable
3. You can get good quality spare batteries now for the Universal from www.mobilefun.co.uk
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Thanks, I felt I was the only one having problems Anyway:
1) I am always in powersave, still loosing battery power.
2) I just purchased a new SD card yesterday because I thought that may have caused the problems, but it's not it.. same problems.
3) I'll look into spare batteries, thanks for the link
ninja12innotts said:
I had a few issues with PhoneAlarm, nice piece of software does exactly what I wanted as well, apart from I had some compatability issues.
Slowed the phone down alot and if my memory serves me correctly ( I have a few too many memory leaks of my own going on ) made the phone freeze a couple of times.
Tried the trial version of Pocket Informant ( had it as standard on an IPAQ HX4700 and quite liked it ) but that caused me a few problems.
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I appreciate the reply.
1) I've purchased and used phoneAlarm for about a year straight with my PDA2K and it never failed me any problems. I consider it a must have, and since it ran quite smoothly on my PDA2k I don't see why it should cause the Exec these issues. Further, I did remove it and still exeprienced the same issues, so that's not the problem either.
2) I've used PocketInfromant for 1.5 years now and no problem on my old PDA2K.
colonel said:
I know this is anachistic but I am also annoyed by the occasional reboot and have discovered (shock horror) that having as few TSRs running (i.e. none) as possible much reduces this. I used to run magic button and I am convinced that this caused the occasional lockup. These days I only have vbar (2.2) installed and run it at times of need (i.e. I don't run it all the time) as well as using the memory item in the settings to kill programs.
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Thanks for the reply, I've been using MagicButton for almost as long as I can remember and it never failed me. It worked superb on my PDA2K. Further, I tried removing it for a few days to check how things would work without it. Same lockups, same memory leaks, same mediocre performance, unfortunately (or fortunately) this isn't the problem either.
weasel said:
Have you tried using the Exec in Corporate mode? It works fine for me
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Sure I actually never ran my Exec in any other mode than the Corporate mode, so I never even experienced the other modes.
jah said:
@ChristopherTD, I setup a dummy Activesync server and then set Activesync to manual and I have found this make my Exec more stable - perhaps it is because it does not lose as much RAM as before.
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Pitty, that's not the issue with my machine as I already did that trick 2 weeks ago.
I just ran memaid to see what running processes do I have and I see to be having the following ones. Note that I have no running programs in the background and no today plugins enabled whasoever, just VoiceCommand I guess is working in the background but that's it. It seems to me that the WM5 core doesn't freeup memory.
Here's what memaid reports
gwes.exe 5.26MB
device.exe 2.83MB
filesys.exe 2.41MB
cprog.exe 2.29MB
VoiceCmd.exe 1.81MB
shell32.exe 1.51MB
(smaller processes below
tmail.exe 275.57KB
services.exe 159.81KB
connmgr.exe 115.81KB
MemMaid.exe 27.90KB
psShutXP.exe 11.90KB
srvtrust.exe 7.90KB
Nk.exe 0 bytes
the most memory you can clear is about 26-29mbytes. The rest of the running processes need to be there. There is a good thread somewhere on what each process does, will post it if I come across it again.
29mb is disappointing considering there is 64mbyte memory, but thats the way WM5 works.
rgds
I've got a O2 XDA ii (himalaya) and im running wm2005 2.01.64
After a soft reset I have 31.x MB or RAM left, even if I dont run a single program or make a single phone call within say 6hours my RAM is at 21-24MB. This has nothing to do with not correctly closing programs but either a wm2005 leak or in my case a lot of the problem is being pointed at SBSH Ilauncher.
Well here is a comparison just done a soft reset started memaid and my results are in brackets after yours for the ones in common running :-
gwes.exe 5.26MB ( 4.6 MB )
device.exe 2.83MB ( 1.46 MB )
filesys.exe 2.41MB (1.82 MB )
cprog.exe 2.29MB ( 1.46 MB )
VoiceCmd.exe 1.81MB
shell32.exe 1.51MB ( 1.21 MB )
(smaller processes below
tmail.exe 275.57KB
services.exe 159.81KB ( 315.76 kb )
connmgr.exe 115.81KB ( 115.81 kb )
MemMaid.exe 27.90KB (23.0 kb )
psShutXP.exe 11.90KB
srvtrust.exe 7.90KB (7.9 kb )
Nk.exe 0 bytes ( 0kb )
also I have :-
Wisbaradv2.exe 787.71 kb
sddaemon.exe 67.9 kb
Pimhelper.exe 11.9 kb
Poutlook,exe 3.9 kb
( i have Wisbar, SPBdiary and pocketzenphone open )
going to have a look later tonight to see if anything changes.
ROM Ver. 1.30.76
Radio 1.09.00
ExtRom ver 1.30.164
I had similar problems when I first bought my O2 exec (on Ebay).
I downloaded the latest update from O2 website and re-flash the phone. I used Corporate install. So far it has been solid and I am even using the phone with Goodlink without a problem.
About the same time I bought the phone, I bought a 2G SD card (sandisk) , when I got the card I insalled a few software on this card (TCMP and Total Commander). Everytime I ran those applications, I can see that the phone crawls like a snail and worse it hangs. It even take a long time for me to transfer files from my laptop to the SD card even when I used a SD Card reader.
I replaced the SD card with a 2G MMC+ (Kingston) and I install the same apps. My phone is working as it should be, I can say that I didnt experience any hanging at all and it was never slow as well. I can even upload a ripped DVD movie on the phone faster compared to when I used the SD card. Right now I have one full season of Alias in my MMC+ card.
I have the phone setup to turnoff after a period of time (3 minutes) when there is no activity as opposed to others that they wanted to have the settings uncheck Start>Settings>Power. I also make sure that the backlight is set to a minimun when on battery and I uncheck the part where the phone will not recieve all incoming beam.
So far, my phone has been stable and battery lasts for 3 days.
From personal experience I found wisbar caused issues with the phone not ringing on an incoming call. It would ring for the first call after a soft reset and then stop for any further calls...
The other major issue which could cause delays and slowness is installing to the sd card any apps which ought to be installed to ram. ie: today plugins etc.
Hi,
Searching why my D2 is dead some mornings whereas the batteries are good on the evening, I found out that the D2 freezes at 23h55 - and that sort of deadlock consumes the batteries during the night.
It's now 3h20AM, I have put the screen on (D2 was in standby mode, screen being off) => it mentions 23h55, and it is frozen (no response either with the stylus or the buttons).
To what could that freeze at that very particular time could be linked to?
I must add that sometimes during the day the clock is desynchronized (10 minutes late for instance, as if the phone has entered a deadlock during 10 minutes and came back to life after...)
(I created this particular thread from the batteries problem one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4780101#post4780101
as this one is a very specific behaviour, not related to 3G or common optimizations regarding batteries).
Markot said:
Hi,
Searching why my D2 is dead some mornings whereas the batteries are good on the evening, I found out that the D2 freezes at 23h55 - and that sort of deadlock consumes the batteries during the night.
It's now 3h20AM, I have put the screen on (D2 was in standby mode, screen being off) => it mentions 23h55, and it is frozen (no response either with the stylus or the buttons).
To what could that freeze at that very particular time could be linked to?
I must add that sometimes during the day the clock is desynchronized (10 minutes late for instance, as if the phone has entered a deadlock during 10 minutes and came back to life after...)
(I created this particular thread from the batteries problem one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4780101#post4780101
as this one is a very specific behaviour, not related to 3G or common optimizations regarding batteries).
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it's scared of the midnight ghost hour so it stalls before it gets there?
seriously though, i would check/delete the alarm registries (and any other time based notification you can think of)
I remember people getting ghost alarms (which would often freeze their phones) in WM5 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-242103.html)
good luck
I had the same problem, unfortunately only found a hard reset resolved the problem.
That's indeed what I've done 2 days ago, since then all runnin' fine (let's wait for 1 week to be sure, sometimes I hadn't any problem for an entire week).
I can't think of other suspects than RTremote and Galarm that were the only "sleeping" programs I had on my D2...
In the past I also saw my phone waking up at midnight, yesterday that wasn't the case.
Problem still there :-(
My phone froze Sunday evening at 23h54 (time still mentioned as it was after midnight).
This time the phone was charging, whereas being full the battery led remained orange (last times even no charging, the freeze occurred).
Only the power button was still working as previous times (to put the screen on/off).
My configuration is the following:
- Model: Touch Diamond2 T5353 (French Orange)
- ROM: 1.39.406.1 (49068) FRE (date 16/06/2009 - official 21/07/2009 HTC ROM)
- Radio version: 3.43.25.19
- Protocol version: 61.20t.25.10U
- SPL Olinex 1.83
- Lock on (code to be entered after 5min max to be enable to use the phone)
- No "dormant" application installed (as could be RTremote or Galarm)
- Applications installed: Resco Explorer (+plugings), Resco Audio recorder, Diamond Ati D3D drivers, Microsoft .NET CF 3.5, Marathon, LSD2008 Lite, GPS2Blue, ShakeAndSave, Hologram, TaskMgr, dwRuler, hdWobble, PowerRadio.
I can’t see what the source of the problem is… Any ideas?
Any similar behaviour on your phones?
Hello!
I had the same issue and realized that it was Galarm that "haunted" my Diamond 2 every night at around 23:58
As long as you don't have the above application, I would suggest a hard reset and then check D2 without installing any apps for the first night
Hello,
i have the same Problem as Markot. Only the Power-Button works. No timebased App is installed. The problem is in most cases the TD2 is connected to a charger, not only on midnight.
Bye MyPass
Hi all,
I think I got it!
Actually, to be more comprehensive with my "flashing history", I did first, some months ago, the ROM flashing with SPL Olinex 1.33 (HTC official WM 6.1).
Then I discovered "the bug" I described in this thread (and in another thread before, the battery leaks, finding my phone dead in the morning...)
Doing a hard reset did not change anything.
2 weeks ago, I decided to try the official HTC WM 6.5 release (I previously installed SPL 1.83 after having installed WM 6.1).
But not completely satisfied, I put back WM 6.1 WITH SPL 1.83 THIS TIME.
And it's working fine since then, no freeze anymore during 1,5 week.
So the problem was related to flashing WM 6.1 with SPL 1.33 - whereas when doing it with SPL 1.83, all runs like a charm.
Another clue is the blinking led on sms received (default behaviour): after flashing WM 6.1 with SPL 1.33, I have never seen it. After flashing WM 6.1 with SPL 1.83, the blinking appeared.
Cheers.
Guys,
If you are using Galarm, there is a register value "midnightwakeup", try to set it "false"
i made a hardreset and the problem was solved
i had this problem last night. as you expect i was very veri surprized. almost to be late for work. anyway, since i have bought the phone it did nothave such problem. This may be the problem "Setings tab->All Settings ->personal -> phone ->Time Zones Tab." i have remembered that i played with this particular setting last day. now i have disable it and we will see what will happen tonight.
look at yours TD2 and if this thing is checked, then unchecked it. it may help. At least wount harm
no problem so far, after unchecking this setting.
Hey guys,
I have had this 7.5 build for a while now and everything seemed fine to begin with. But now, within the last 3months or so, when ever I try to make a call, either 1) the phone freezes 2)the phone restarts itself straight away or 3)the call starts but I cant hear anything or see on the screen so I have to restart.
The battery also doesnt last more than 7-8 hours?! with all data settings, wifi, 3G off, brightness at the lowest, battery saver onand I even turn my phone off in the underground!
As a result I have to charge my phone to at least 60%-70% by 11pm otherwise my alarm work go off for work in the morning!
I am using the same radio version that came with the ROM, here are the details:
HTC schubert 7.5 build (os version 7.10.7740.16)
Radio software: 5.71.09.02a_22.51.50.21U
Radio hardware version: A.102.0.D4
Firmware revision: 2250.09.07491.605
Hardware revision: 0002
I have seen some questions about the various combinations of radio and builds? but I am wondering why it freezes still Is it a problem with the phone internals more than software maybe?
Thanks for your help,
Marc
freeze, restarts and speed problems is related to incompatible sdcard
for better battery time you must use radio combination 2.15/5.51 or 2.12/5.51 with camera trick (you have 5.71... this is battery draining radio)
all this explained countless times on forum