I just did a backup to SD and files are missing (Pix Mp3 etc...) now the only folders are the recycle bin (advanced explorer) Backup file 20Mb and "ignore mydocs" which is 0kb. The properties still says the space is taken up with stuff on the card but i can't get at the files. Any ideas or do i have to format the card.
I know SD card erasures has been thread before but I didn't know if the XDA2 problem was new. I'm using windows default theme, no-name 256Mb SD card.
Thanks
This is the first that hear about lost SD files on the XDAII. This has been bothering me a lot on XDA1 and WM2003 and there is no OS documentation on the Phone Edition of WM2003.
The interesting thing is that you do have some folders remaining in the card. Is the backup functional(Were you able to restore from it?) Most erasures completely erase the card and all the directories therein.
I did some research on the Radio Interface layer and the specific DLL's interaction with the OS. As a continuation to the following:
http://xda-developers.com/RIL/
I feel the problem lies in how the Radio Stack conflicts programatically with how SD cards are recognized by the device. So I wrote a few apps to trace how files are written to the card and when there is a new card ID generated by the device.
The erasures coincide with the new SD card ID in the OS and port/ layer. However, since the RIL and stack are built in and not documented I have not been able to isolate and resolve the problem.
How long have you had this card?
what apps do you have installed in the XDA II?
Has the erasure occurred before?
I've had this happen once and only once after uninstalling some software. I have a "viking 512MB" sd card.
I ejected it then put it back in then pointed the file explorer to it and all was back to normal.
once..
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It happened to me once (i had xda 2 now for a month)...
I lost data which has no backups.. since I had this 512MB panasonic on all my Ipaq 3970,5450,550,2210,1910, and 4150 and it never fails ...
Now this xda 2 erased it all ... been 2 weeks now and still holding... but I am backung up my SD now once for while..
- my new problem, if my phone portion hangs, and softreset, I got stuck on O2 blue screen and need to hard reset.. last night it happened again and the pda portion still working , so backed up and hard reset...
I still has the 13Q protocol version, I heard someone fix this problem upgarding to 14 ?
xdaer said:
I just did a backup to SD and files are missing (Pix Mp3 etc...) now the only folders are the recycle bin (advanced explorer) Backup file 20Mb and "ignore mydocs" which is 0kb. The properties still says the space is taken up with stuff on the card but i can't get at the files. Any ideas or do i have to format the card.
I know SD card erasures has been thread before but I didn't know if the XDA2 problem was new. I'm using windows default theme, no-name 256Mb SD card.
Thanks
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I suggest if you can place the card in a Laptop or PC and run Scandisk.
There may even be a Pocket PC program that can do the same thing so you might try doing a web search for one.
Flash Format comes to mind:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=851
HTH
tried all..
:x
I tried all in my laptop, even Norton etc... really nothing left !!
I had the PCMCIA adpter for MS/SD/MMC/Smartmedia..
the FILES ARE there!!
Hi all, please be carefull the files are not ERASED they are there but somehow hidden!!! :!: :?: :!: , it happened to me on my Sandisk 256MB and after a week, things went back to normal and i had all my files accessable, i copied them to my PC and now after a month , the files disapeared again on my SD Card but if you check the CARD you can see that some files are taking space which mean again they are there but not accessable.
a week ??
I dont think I can last a week to wait until my sd files come up again ...
DO you have any quick fix on this issue like rewriting the FAT thru norton or other SW ?
I had checked with my laptop last time and my files really disappeared..
HI
the files are there on the card and they are hidden. They appear to be broken up into 12k chunks... is there any way to recover them?? I'm using a no name 256k sd card and the problem occured after doing a full back up. Incidentally the recovery file is faulty and will no work. I'm not too bothered but i lost loads of photos....
thanks
Strange indeed, I can't delete or add any file, when I try to do so, the small circle shows up to show that the pocket pc is working, then nothing happing it keeps going round till it blocks. I had this problem before and I solved it with a hard rest. I don't have the intention to hard reset again. Anyboby had this weird problem??
I might add that i can delete the files on my computer through activesync with no problem. I have O2 German upgraded to the T-mobile 1.60 english.. so any clues whatsoever???
What software do you have installed, I would be inclined to do a backup then hard reset, then when reinstalling software check if the problem occurs after each installation of your programs, this might pin it down to a program that is locking all files for some reason.
It seems that it happens randomly, cuz when I made a backup I didn't had this problem.Then when the problem occured I restored but the problem remailned. I have a lot of programs installed I wans doubting Microsoft voice command but the problem remailned after uninstalling it other programs(metro,tomtom 2,finger clix,fullscreen keyboard,sms writer,xcpuscalar,pocketMVP) any of these programs is known to force this problem. Thanks
I don't know that any of these programs by themselves are known to cause this behavior - but sometimes combinations of programs, glitches during installations, or any of a dozen other things can cause abnormal behavior.
I would agree with cruisin-thru . . . the only way to be sure if it is one of the programs you have installed, and if so which, is to do a hard-reset and install the programs one-at-a-time, giving some time for testing between installations.
Same problem here
Yep - I have had and currently have the same problem.
Uninstalling programs does not help, only a hard reset and then reinstall one by one testing as you go.
I have done a hard reset in the past, but never built it back up to the same spec, so have not pin pointed an app (if it is an app)
It may help if you compare to my install list ??
Let me know how it goes,
Ian
Adode Acrobat Reader 1.0
Astraware Bejeweled
Astraware Bookworm
Belkin WPDAK
Boma Software Reversi Game for Po...
Fonix UK Roger (2 MB)
Fonix VoiceDial 1.2 EN
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX
Microsoft Money for Pocket PC
MTUX RingToneX
Pocket Bluetooth Tools
PocketMac_CEWindows.Net RegKin...
Realnetworks RealOne Player
SanDisk Wi-Fi SD Card for WinCE 4.00
SBSH.net Birth2Day
SBSH.net Calendar Plus Proffessional
SBSH.net iLauncher
ScaryBear Software Check Notificati...
Smartphone4u Extended ROM Switc...
I have also had, but removed now:
mov Software imov Messenger(tm)
>Strange indeed, I can't delete or add any file, when I try to do so, the >small circle shows up to show that the pocket pc is working, then >nothing happing it keeps going round till it blocks. I had this problem >before and I solved it with a hard rest. I don't have the intention to hard >reset again. Anyboby had this weird problem??[/quote]
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
I've the same strange randomic problem, the workaround is:
- Remove SD Card
- Softreset
- Reinsert SD Card
At least, you don't need hard reset anymore
I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
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All I can say about that is that I use SD cards extensively, and I have never experienced the behavior that whafni77 describes. It could be . . . but I'm skeptical.
Maddoc ur the man, it really resolved the problem and u made me feel small not having thinked of that. For the rocord the only program in common with InaF is Pocket Bluetooth Tools, don't know if it has something to do with it. Thanks guys
Well what do you know!!!
Well Maddoc, this just goes to prove you learn something new every day!
o I tried to delete a file in File Explorer - it hung
o I killed off File Explorer from the running program list - probably not required, but just to prove the file had really been deleted
o I ejected my SD card - a very cheaply made one
o Soft Reset
o Tried to delete another file - and it worked !!
o Inserted the SD card
o Tried to delete another file - and it worked !!
I'm very happy, and the confusion as to why it is acting like this will soon disappear.
Thanks again!
That's the good part, the bad one is that you have to pull out the SD card every single time you do a soft reset, but I'm satisfied with that until someone knows what the heck is going on.
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I think that there is a bug which appear only when you use the SD card slot.
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All I can say about that is that I use SD cards extensively, and I have never experienced the behavior that whafni77 describes. It could be . . . but I'm skeptical.
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Just to add some extra informations...
In my office there are 2 qtek2020 users, me and another friend.
The only differences between devices is that i use SD cards regulary and only my device is having this kind of problem, the frequency of this problem arises when i use TOMTOM navigator and the maps are stored in SD card.
The results are the same with my 256mb sandisk and 128mb pretec.
Seems that at some point the QTEK2020( and i think also mda/imate etc... ) is unable to "receive" file change notifications( or something like that ) and the results are:
1) You can't delete file with "file explorer"( hourglass loop )
2) If you write a new note and save it, you can't even see the note on the list !!!
3) If you install another application, the program group/start menu is not updated !!!
BTW i've just reformatted my 256mb sd card with flashformat two days ago, no problem for the moment but i'm not using navigator now...
Thanks to all
I stand corrected! Partially anyway . . . :wink:
Since I do not use TomTom Navigator (or any other GPS software for that matter) it is conceivable that the software is corrupting the FAT on the SD card.
Have you tried using StorageTools (or other similar software) to scan (automatically fix all errors) and defrag the SD card to see if it has any effect?
Well I formatted the SD card(pdc 256) with storage tool and fixed all errors(tried fat32&16) but the problem still there. The thing remains to try is to uninstall TomTom2 along with the Gps software to see if it solves. :?:
A key point here is that even uninstalling might not solve the problem. It is a sad fact that many times when you uninstall a program, both on PCs and PPCs, it is not uncommon for registry entries to be left behind, unnecessary .dlls and other files to remain, and some files that were overwritten by newer (or older) versions to remain as well. This is why several of us have stressed hard-resetting the device . . . it is the ONLY way to be sure you are starting from a known platform.
SD problems
I've only seen these type of problems if I haven't first formatted the card in the target device first.
Well finally the problem resolved. I should say the hint that mrg2003 gave is really the solution,in other words you should not format the card from the device but rather from the card reader(fat and not fat32) and bingo no more blocks. I should say this forum is great. Cheerz :lol:
Re: SD problems
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I've only seen these type of problems if I haven't first formatted the card in the target device first.
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I confirm, i formatted my sd with flash format... No problems at all now !!!!
I really don't understand this perfectly right! I have an SD Card and the same problem as all of you state.
What do I have to do? I use the Qtek 2020...
Thanx in advance.
Still have a problem and can someone help me with it!
I formatted the sd card with a lot of tools through the Qtek, like storagetools and flash format.
Afterwards I tried to format through windows format tool!!
But none of them worked and still have the problem of the hourglass..... Can somebody help me? I have a Sandisk 256 MB Ultra II.
Thanx in advance
hi, i have problem with switiching on my wizard. my device just freezed and every time i try to soft reste it starts but dosnt responso/dosnt work. the only way to make it work again is to remove miniSD(2gb) and reste it againn. my wizard dosnt see what is on the card and even if it does i still cannot open any files. why is that ?? what can i do ??
in addition i can say that it has been ok so far it started to happen just like that.
help please !
cheers, matt
Freezing
Sounds like your card needs re-formatting.
Re-format is as FAT.
Unfortunately you'll loose data that you had on it. Back it up from a PC if you need to first..
Charlie Grillo
thank u for ur advice but how do u do that ? i have no card reader..can i do it while card in the wizard ??
wondering too
yeah i also wonder how to format mini sd without card reader. Is there any program (ppc) for backup and formating card?
Download trial versions of storage tools or sktools (google them) and you will be able to format the card on your device.
I just bought a Orange M3000,it's my first phone with WM5.
Today I installed on my miniSD 3 or 4 programs (Resco KeyBord pro 4.20,a dictionary "Universal Translator",WIFI Companion and Resco Picture Viewer)
I restarted the phone and I observed that the GSM network is not recognized....and after that I observed I am not able to open Programs from menu, internet explorer....File explorer....TheactivSync is not working …..
I can open settings....Resco file Browser..Resco RegEdit...and a little program that transforms my Wizard into a memory stick….so I can copy files into my miniSD
I think that are problems with the new "keyboard" installed(the one from Resco)...I am not sure
I have uninstalled all programs that I have insaled today, I have deleted their files manually have installed PocketMeChanic...and I tried every thing I know to repair my Wizard.....I have reinstalled the resco keyboard from .cab files from mobile phone…
What should I do?
Should I format My memory ?Do I lose The installed programs form mini-sd ?
How do I reinstall the original keyboard ?
Please help me…….
It could be the keyboard or wm5torage can also give this problem. Simplest way is for you to do a hard reset and then see what is what before formatting your card. Most programs work staight from the card and do not need to be reinstalled - just create shortcuts. Backup important files before hard reset - pim info is in pim.vol in root of device - make a copy of that so making restore easier.
If I restart my wizard and I work without the miniSD it has the same problem....so if I format my minisd I don not think that I will have to many chances to repair my Wizard....
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If I restart my wizard and I work without the miniSD it has the same problem....so if I format my minisd I don not think that I will have to many chances to repair my Wizard....
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You are right so you need to do a hard reset of your device.
meschle said:
EmilianM said:
If I restart my wizard and I work without the miniSD it has the same problem....so if I format my minisd I don not think that I will have to many chances to repair my Wizard....
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You are right so you need to do a hard reset of your device.
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I am sorry but I am a newbie..and I am not able to find out how to make a hard reset.....can you please help me ?There are 2 days since I am not able to use my wizard ....
hello i was installing a new rom to my mobile (prophet) and after it finished i found my memory card had been stopped to work properly i found
1 when i open my storage card from file explorer it open the card but i donot find the files which there was on it
2 when i try to see how is the memory available on it ,i found the same memory which it was before i install the rom and i see that the card has a very big memory used which it was on it before but no files can be seen
3 i tried to even format the card but i cudnot do that and i read want to the files which was on it
plz i know that there r many experts here who gonna tell me wat to do
i used the program called pocket mechanic but it didnot do anything new
plz i wanna quick answer
thx for everyone
Don't post new threads demanding a quick answer!
Your files are encrypted!
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Don't post new threads demanding a quick answer!
Your files are encrypted!
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i;m soo sry
i didnot encrypted my files but that appears when i installed the new rom
TheCHAMPJT is correct, you"re files have been encrypted by the built in program in the rom. You should be able to unlock it again using the same program (under settings) provided you haven't and DON'T reflash your rom on your phone. That will make problems much worse.
why didnt you follow the age old rulle and take out all the cards in the phone?