Hard resets - data lost or kept? - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

With previous version XDA's there was an option to save appointments, tasks and contacts and restore if hard reset (in settings>system>permanent save.....no equivalent thats obvious with the Universal - does this mean this data is lost?
Also I though WM5 was supposed to save programs loaded.....

WM2003:
Hard Reset - ALL IS LOST
Battery failure - ALL IS LOST
WM2005:
Hard reset - ALL IS LOST
Battery failure - NOTHING IS LOST
"The hard reset"
Look at the words..
"re-set"...

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Soft Reset issues

Apologies if this has been posted before but cant find it in the search...
1) On soft reset, I loose sms messages, even if I have closed "Text Messages" with any of the 3rd party "close" button programs.
2) On soft reset, I lose BT338 GPS connectivity, have to remove the device and port then re add - have read on here that you need to uncheck secure connection, I've tried it with both checked, and unchecked and still fails
3) On soft reset, whatever background image I have dissapears, but a portion is left behind in the drop down window.
4) Im with Orange, which of the cabs in the Extended ROM can I delete and still be able to use the phone.
5) When using Sprite Backup It does not back up either calendar or contacts, even though I have Personal Databases checked (or if it does, it doesnt restore them)
I dont want a load of Orange bloatware using up the memory, just enough for phone, gprs connection and WiFi to work.
Getting quite used to doing hard resets now, had issue over the weekend with one app causing Picture viewer to lock up!
Many thanks from a grateful Newbie!
jedi23mi9 said:
4) Im with Orange, which of the cabs in the Extended ROM can I delete and still be able to use the phone.
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Once you have flashed your phone and done the reset afterwards, letting the customisations install they are no longer of any use to you until you do a hard reset, at which point the ROM will reload and the customisations with it.
If you use backup software after you delete the entire contents of your ExtendedROM you won't lose a thing.
Have you got the right version of Sprite? I think the latest is 5.1?
If you have no luck with it, give SPB a try. I've used it on my Alpine and Uni with great success.
Have you tried flashing with the latest ROM for the other problems? I'm on the latest Orange ROM and so far things seem to be working fine with SMS, desktop and BT pairing.
Thanks,
Sprite is 5.1.0 Build 1417 - downloaded last friday
ROM version seem to be same as yours, 1.30.90WWE 02/24/06 so I guess thats most upto date Orange ROM (had device just under 3 weeks)
Grr @ self for not reading sig !
Another thing to try is the Qtek ROMs? Assuming you're unlocked of course.
Good Luck with it =)
Im not brave enough to unlock it
I absolutley adore the beast, and its spot on for what i need, just wish I could resolve the minor issues that whilst not spoil the use of it, nevertheless are annoying. BT338 gets hot fix in seconds, but takes me 5 mins to un pair then reapir the blasted BT connection
Going back to the extended ROM, what I meant was do I need all the cab files that are in there to use the phone, as in can I remove some, then Hard reset and have a smaller number actually load up.
I dont use the Orange today screen for one, and given that there is only 25Mb of usable program memory out of 50, I'm wondering how much of that is caused by TSR orange code that can be removed at build
EDIT: had a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...0&postorder=asc&highlight=reg+tweaks&start=25 but still non the wiser (someone listed the Orange FR cabs)
There is an easy way to do this that doesn't require unlocking the ExtROM, which you have to do to be able to delete anything in there.
When you hard reset, tap the screen, sync the touchscreen, cut and paste, then Windows loads up.
Right after that it will give you 3 seconds before loading the contents of the ExtROM. If you hit the reset pin during that three seconds it won't load anything in there.
You can then browse to it with a decent file manager and install the .CABs by hand.
But, don't be afraid of unlocking, it takes one program and two registry edits. Gives you 10MB of space to play with too.
Ah, my fault, read som much about unlocking that I thought you meant the sim card.
Yip, I've run the ExtRom unlocker and found out how to look inside
Not really that bothered about storage on the device, more about having a nice trim OS so that i have more program space as the kernel is smaller
Thanks again

To prevent hardreset of Hermes

Hi,
Is it possible to prevent hardreset of the Hermes device by third party (said a theft), at least a password prompt. If this is not possible, would it becoz of the nature of the ROM come with Hermes or HTC hardware engineering missed that out ? thanks.
It is not possible because of the nature of hard reset: it is intended to restore the device functionality even if the owner forgot all the passwords.
Lurker0 said:
It is not possible because of the nature of hard reset: it is intended to restore the device functionality even if the owner forgot all the passwords.
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Is it possible to intercept the hardreset process on the Hermes via 3rd party app or registry hack, to prompt for a password before proceeding ? or it has to be incorporated into the ROM ? it would be great if this is possible
HR is performed before any apps are loaded. It also removes any user data and settings, including installed 3rd party apps. This is by design.
What do you want just contradicts to the whole HR idea.

Soft-/Hardreset via Cabfile

Hi altogether,
I need to softreset/hardreset a WinCE/PocketPC/Windows Mobile based device using a CabFile (one for Soft- one for hardreset). Does anyone know, how to do this?
Thanks in advance.
P.S.: I already searched the forum, but found nothing between thousands of threads with Softreset,... in it.
Well the first of all can you program in C / C++?
If the answer is yes then you will have to write a setup.dll for the cab that will do the reset.
Here is an article for soft reset that will work on any WM device and on many CE devices (it is OEM choice to implement this part, so some CE devices like PNDs do not have it).
For Windows Mobile 5 and up it is recommended to use the ExitWindowsEx API instead.
As for hard reset there is a problem: this article works for pre WM 5 devices, but because of the flash storage on WM 5 and up the implementation of hard reset was left to the OEM so there is no generic way to do it by software.
Tools like Tweaks2K2 and SKTools provide this feature as a standard.
Cheers
hrb
yeah with persistent storage hardreset changed
good thing too if it was easy to program a hardreset
it could cause alot of problems when / if more virus's
will come to pda's
I don't mean to scare you Rudegar, but there is a very simple way of forcing the user to do a hard reset himself, on any WM device. I am not going to publish it here, but lets just say if someone wanted to make a virus, lack of programmatic hard reset would not be a consideration at all.
well after wm5 a hardreset at least dont cost people all their nonbackupd data
I know this is getting the thread off track and I apologize, but the whole point of "hard reset" is to lose all data. Unless you keep is on SD in which case it doesn't matter what OS you are using.
You are probably thinking of power loss and not HR.
Thanks for the info. I'll check your hints.

Resetting WM6 to WM5

Due to synchronization problems and not being able to "hard reset" my X7500 I need to find out if I can return to the WM 5 I originally had on it. Does anyone have an idea if this problem can be solved in any way?
My device is an X7500 with WM 6 on it. When I try to reinstall / reset the device I still have certain items on it. (For example my internet connection settings). When I try to synchronize, the device does briefly display the number of items it processes, but after finishing, there are no items on the device.
Thanks in advance for any advise.
Greetings
Fred
Hard reset
Hi there,
Are you serious you cant hard reset? Thats no good!!....You can't push the volume slider down and then press your stylus into the hole at the back? Is your Volume slider broken? Maybe another soft way to initiate the bootloader restore screen......
The best thing to do with this device is to get it up to Mitchy Windows Mobile 6.1 - doesnt really matter which one. Even if its working perfectly with standard mobile 6 or 5.
The increase in simply useability is rather large and rather worth it. Docx and XLSX support etc... much faster - proper real VGA built in.

Programs missing from Remove programs

Hi. I've had trouble syncing my Touch HD this past few days - I think it may be to do with Phatnotes as the PPC disconnects everytime it is part way thru' syncing Phatnotes. Anyway, I thought I would try to remove this program but when I go to Settings -> Remove Programs - no programs at all show up in the list - blank! I have done a soft reset but nothing. Any ideas?
I'm hoping no one tells me to do a hard reset! I have stock rom and about 35mb of storage left.
Thanks,
Phil G, South Wales
Hi,
Try to reinstall some of your program. And look if its appearing in REMOVE PR..

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