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T-Moble's latest statement on 2003 ROM

Customer 11/06/2003 03:14 AM
I have a Pocket PC Phone. Will there be any upgrades offered for the ROM from the Pocket PC 2002 software to Pocket PC 2003 software?
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Response (Michael) 11/06/2003 11:46 AM
Dear MrDollymaker,
Thank you for taking the time to contact T-Mobile.
I understand that you are requesting information on when the Pocket PC 2003 will be available. I will be happy to assist you with this information. T-Mobile has not announced an official release date for such a software at this time. We are constantly adding to our line-up of fantastic products so please check back with us often. For the most current information on the products that T-Mobile offers, please visit our website at T-Mobile.com or your local T-Mobile retail store.
If you have any other comments, questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at anytime.
Thank you for choosing T-Mobile.
Sincerely,
T-Mobile USA, Inc.
Mike C.
Web Services
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Hmmmm..... Wish they would make up their minds about this! Either that or have the right hand tell the left hand what they are doing and visa-versa! :roll:
Now, where can I get ahold of that 4.01.00 ROM that's running loose? :twisted:
MrDollyMaker.

$8 an hour customer service reps
Anybody seriously think they train these people or provide extraneous info on something as obscure as a software update for a phone product they're barely promoting?
No. You sit in front of a terminal and look up account information. Maybe you get a raise if you can pick from a series of canned e-mail responses and get to be on the online support team.
Odds are the thing will show up here or from some other, more progressive country.
Just IMHO.

Re: $8 an hour customer service reps
wayandrs said:
Anybody seriously think they train these people or provide extraneous info on something as obscure as a software update for a phone product they're barely promoting?
No. You sit in front of a terminal and look up account information. Maybe you get a raise if you can pick from a series of canned e-mail responses and get to be on the online support team.
Odds are the thing will show up here or from some other, more progressive country.
Just IMHO.
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I"m actually in agreement with you, as when I have had problems and called their support, that was what they explained to me.... unless I get to this "tier 4" or higher which is their development team level. I believe they said there is like 6 or 7 tiers. 4 being the begining development level and consisting of like 20 people or something like this. :?:

Same runaround from ATT
I talked to ATT today and although I will give the tech credit for spending 30 or so minutes trying to find out the status of the upcoming upgrade, the final result was about the same as with TM. Thier final suggestion was to check on the Seimens site. That is a waste of time as the main Siemens site has no reference to the SX-56. I did find the last ATT updates that on www.mysiemens.com, but no mention of the update.
It is sad to say, but I think the telcos are trying to forget these devices and move on to the newer stuff that is easier to support. Remember that they have been used to phones that either worked or didn't. With all the concern regarding the upcoming cell # portability that occurs on the 24th (here in US), you would think that they would be doing everything possible to build customer loyality.

**XDA Exec F/S Excellent Condition**

HI all, G/F is selling her XDA Exec, she's upgraded to a VF 1605 and doesnt need it any more.
Offering on here before Fleebay, anyone who makes the first SENSIBLE offer can take it away, I have all the manuals and box etc.
Currently Flashed with the QTEC rom but I can put any one thats on the FTP on before shipping.
I can also put the working Blackberry software on if necessary, you obviously have to have a BB account for it to work properly.
PM me and we can exchange fone numbers...
Will accept Paypal or Bank transfer (COC if you fancy picking it up from Basingstoke)

Hey I AM INTERESTED
My current phone is giving problems, will you sell for 280 or are you wahting for the highest price? you would be doing me a big favor...because in my country I cannot get the XDA...where do you live...I work for an airline and would be willing to travel and collect...thats how serious i am about getting one!
please please sell me! what price are you looking for? any dents or marks on the xda?
thanks
Youmeus

I vouch for Youmeus, he's a great friend, and founder member of the Vijay555 fan club apparently. Youmeus - weren't you over my way this month?
Anyway, if Youmeus needs help in posting, I'm based in the UK and am happy to help get it to him.
V

280 is good for us, as long as everything checks out and the moneys paid over ok, drop me an email and we can talk about how you wish to pay and how you want to collect or for me to ship. email is extmail (at) btinternet dot com.
Vijay555 where are you located?

Hey!!!
WONDERFUL tonyb15re, thanks for the sale...will send email today. I would still like to know the condition in terms of marks...etc.
Hello vijay555...well I had to push my travel plans back a bit, Looks like I will be visiting in November instead. Thanks for the help...once everythings ok with tonyb15re's XDA will need you to collect and stuff for me will send details via PM.
This has got to be is one of the coolest communities on the planet!

I'm in London. tonyb15re - if you are in London, youmeus can probably collect direct, but otherwise it might be easiest to get it to me in London, and then youmeus can collect from me when he comes over next.
V

vijay555 said:
I'm in London. tonyb15re - if you are in London, youmeus can probably collect direct, but otherwise it might be easiest to get it to me in London, and then youmeus can collect from me when he comes over next.
V
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Happy to ship it to London Let me know where via email and once the moneys been transferred Ill get it sent over immediately.
As for the condition once I've got an email from you I'll take some snaps of the XDA and send them over, There arent any as far as I am aware, there are a couple of dots on the screen casing where the keys have contacted but thats about it I believe.

Guys, no email yet, if I dont hear anything by this evening Im going to Fleabay it.

Cingular Release

cingular released the 8525 today take a look
http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-...rue&q_phoneName=Cingular+8525&q_sku=sku310005
looks like the hermes to me in a cingular blanket... will be purchasing mine this week

YES we all know it .. and NO .. it's not .. there are some differences .. might be important for some folks ..

Omg, I Can Absolutely Not Wait For This Phone!!

Does anyone kown if they have 3G coverage in the Tampa Bay, FL area yet?

omanthat looks awesome..
i ****ing want it now...
i think im not eligible to upgrade handset till february.. and even then i dont think it would be that cheap

Bertil said:
Does anyone kown if they have 3G coverage in the Tampa Bay, FL area yet?
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Yes they do it was rolled out mid to end of september.

I got mine yesterday. I moved from a Sprint 6700 to the Cingular 8525. Loving it so far - I've been reading this forum for several months so I pretty much knew what to expect.

Change your sig!
You need to represent your crew =P
Later, Lew

i just ordered mine today from cingular!!! Tried on thursday and they said it wasnt in their ordering system yet, so i called today (friday morning) and they said it was in there but not available to ship yet, so i called back later on tonight and she was able to place an order for me!! and i get free expedited shipping, i should have mine on monday!!!

Here's a question for you:
I purchased a TyTN last week rather than wait for the 8525 for a couple of reasons. First, I travel world wide and my company has SIM's in the major locations that are country specific, much cheaper and bill back directly to the company. Having a virgin, unlocked TyTN makes this a breeze. Second, I HATE being locked into the "upgrades" that Cingular always puts on their phones (like disabling DUN on the Treo 650....) so I usually always unlock the phones and flash them back to a RoW image.
With all that being said would I gain ANYTHING by flashing my phone with THIS officially released Cingular image? Would you do it?
The reasons I'm considering it are 2 fold:
1. Perhaps the Radio ROM is better
2. It would provide the default Cingular GPRS/UMTS settings so I don't have to re-input them every time I cold boot the phone. (I'm sure there's a way to save these either through a registry hack or a file hack but I haven't found it yet).
Again, What would you do in my situation
BTW, the phone ROCKS. Cingular has UMTS in my market (Central Florida) and aside from a UMTS glitch in the North Orlando switches earlier this week that drops call (they say it's fixed) the performance with internet and Goodlink have been outstanding.

mjw930 said:
Here's a question for you:
I purchased a TyTN last week rather than wait for the 8525 for a couple of reasons. First, I travel world wide and my company has SIM's in the major locations that are country specific, much cheaper and bill back directly to the company. Having a virgin, unlocked TyTN makes this a breeze. Second, I HATE being locked into the "upgrades" that Cingular always puts on their phones (like disabling DUN on the Treo 650....) so I usually always unlock the phones and flash them back to a RoW image.
With all that being said would I gain ANYTHING by flashing my phone with THIS officially released Cingular image? Would you do it?
The reasons I'm considering it are 2 fold:
1. Perhaps the Radio ROM is better
2. It would provide the default Cingular GPRS/UMTS settings so I don't have to re-input them every time I cold boot the phone. (I'm sure there's a way to save these either through a registry hack or a file hack but I haven't found it yet).
Again, What would you do in my situation
BTW, the phone ROCKS. Cingular has UMTS in my market (Central Florida) and aside from a UMTS glitch in the North Orlando switches earlier this week that drops call (they say it's fixed) the performance with internet and Goodlink have been outstanding.
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Yeah Tom the engineer said they are in the optimization phase right now so they will be occasionally taking down sites and fixing. The one in Orlando had a problem with the T1 line. I will be posting more updates as i talk with him about the CFL area.

T-Mobile UK and Windows Mobile 6

I sent an e-mail to T-Mobile asking if they were planning to make an ROMS available and whether or not they would be offering a ROM upgrade with Windows Mobile 6. Below is the response that I received; Good Morning
There are no plans at present to release a rom update for the MDA Vario 2.
When there have been new operating systems for windows mobile devices released these have never been available as an upgrade, only as a new device model.
Hope this answers your questions.
[FONT=&quot]Kind Regards
T-Mobile[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I've even e-mailed T-Mobile back telling them that it works on the Hermes, but they're still insistant that I won't get it throught them. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]So with regards to Windows Mobile 6, will Microsoft make this available in a way that I could purchase it?
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I was hoping that they are going to release on for the Wizard. By the looks of it, I'll be going Underground.. or getting Beautiful
Anyway, I'm just wondering how accurate this information is. Just that his/her English sounds weird to me (eg. "When there have been..." and the rest of the sentence), probably some young girl at India T-Mobile call center hired to answer emails?

I dont think that you are wrong there....
I feel that they are working on something in the background and waiting for all the issues to be ironed out before releasing any update...
I am wondering if there is going to be a cost involved or weather they are going to only give it to NEW hermes????
T-mobile = Unpredictable
D

I would be interested in how T-Mobile would react if there was a large scale request for it.

I spoke to T-mobile a week ago regarding problems with the Vario II. After speaking with their tech support people, the customer rep told me that they are testing ROM updates for the vario II and expected it to be available in a month.
So keep checking http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/
I didn't ask about WM6. I doubt they'd release it for the Vario II as it could affect sales of future devices, but if they get the majority of the problems sorted (particularly bluetooth) i'd be happy enough. I'm on my 2nd handset.

Lost my Ameo!!

Hi Guys, well god only knows how but I have lost my Ameo 2 weeks back... thankfully I have the T-mobile insurance. However there are no Ameos about and so I now have a TytnII which is surprisingly good... although I miss the wonderful VGA screen .
Anyway I got to thining about my lost baby. Now T-Mobile have blocked it, and its reported as lost so I guess if anyone switches it on they will get barred from UK Networks (assuming they are still in the UK of course!) and hopeully it can be tracked by cell? What I was thinking though is that even when it's blocked are the buggers who now have it able to use it as a brilliant GPS unit still? I had TomTom and iGo 8 on it!!! Can it be tracked and caught that way maybe? It really peeves me to think that someone could use it as a GPS and get it for free instead of handing it in!!
Anyways hopefully somone will tell me the GPS wont work if it blocked, or that it will be tracked and the buggers caught!! Here's hoping... oh and if they go abroad will it still be blocked? Did UK set up international blocking or not? As I hear a lot of stolen phones end up in Asia and the Far East now!

The simplest way to catch the burglar is to wait the IMEI appearance on the network, tracing the phone position using the network info AND the SIM card subscriber's data!

Agreed - but im thinkin if its blocked and they decide its a nice gps now, they can stick it in flight mode and use it like that?

Sorry but the GPS will definately still work, as it is completely unconnected from the phone, however it wont work aswell because the software "Quick GPS" requires an active data connection to allow a quick lock ! so now they will have to wait a while everytime for the GPS to lock !
If you had installed the Free WIMP (where is my phone) software, you would be able to track your phone yourself !
T-mobile wont track by cell as they are not a law enforcement agency, and the police don't care it's just another lost mobile to them !

you can still text. i used to have a blocked ameo, i didnt steal it myself, long story.. but anyway, it could still send and recieve texts and connect to the 3g/hsdpa networks. because as far as i know, only calls check your imei
rory

He's correct: you can still use GPRS/3G/HSDPA on a blocked handset. Blocking only prevents GSM functions such as texting and phone calls.
If someone has a data only SIM card (or perhaps buys one of the Hutchinson 3G pay as you go SIMs) then they will happily be able to use your Ameo as a portable web/GPS unit, and unfortunately there is no way that anyone will be caught for this, despite what the Network or the police might tell you.
On the subject, a TyTn 2 seems like a big monetary step-down from an Ameo, could they not order you one in?

Bugger! Someones got a nice cheap web tablet then!!
I had to have a phone quick or I'd lose work so I had little choice.. plus I was due an upgrade anyway on my tarrif in 3 weeks time so I was thinkin of upgrading to the new 16GB version - but they have no idea when it will arrive!! Ooh i noticed Orange do the Shift now - but I just bought an eeePC so dont really need that now... hmmm.. what to do?

I doubt T-Mobile will release the 16gb model as the AMEO didn't shift too well and I think their bods will deem its updates insufficient to create enough market appeal.
The Shift is a shot in the dark and is VERY expensive considering that you'll be paying not much less than the SIM-FREE price for an 18 month contract AND you'll probably need a second phone most of the time. Also, owing to its HSDPA and integrated windows the likelihood of you going over your 3gb allowance and being charged by the megabyte is very high. At least on T-Mobile you'll only get a letter after 3 months of abusing - in fact I've been over my Web N Walk Plus allowance pretty much every month this year and I've not even received a telling-off letter!
I would say that waiting for the Touch Diamond, selling it and buying an x7510 which would mean about a 250 pound supplement, would be the best idea OR send your Vario 3 back and they'll offer you a reduced-rate contract instead of a handset then simply buy a Shift or an x7510 by your own means...

Sad to say, but I'm pretty sure whoever got your lost Ameo is reading this now. :C
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Yea they probably are!
I have to say I am getting quite attached to the Vario3 apart from the screen - not sure what to do now I have the eeePC as would I use the Ameo much? Blimey what to do!

adamelphick said:
Yea they probably are!
I have to say I am getting quite attached to the Vario3 apart from the screen - not sure what to do now I have the eeePC as would I use the Ameo much? Blimey what to do!
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If you've got an EEE stick with that and the Vario 3 and use the Vario for your internet connection. It'll actually be better than the Shift connection-wise as (as far as I'm aware) the Shift doesn't support HSUPA, only HSDPA.
There's an extended life battery for the EEE which I'm looking to get as it should extend its life to over five hours: the Shift, with its naff battery life is nothing compared to a light, solid EEE combined with a Vario 3. Sounds like you might be best to stick with what you've got.
Currently I'm balancing an EEE, an HTC Universal an a Nokia N95. It's not exactly convergence but holistically I've got the best of all worlds!

There's a bit of an argument going on at the mo as I am one of the unlucky eee900 owners who have the 4400mAh battery! Over at the eeeuser.com forums we are trying to get evidence of crap batteries so I cant talk to Taiwan again on tuesday/wednesday...
But i think you might be right - I might stick with the vario and the eee for the time being.

WOW I cant even imagine how you feel I have also installed WIMP and it works very well for lost or stolen phones. You may want to think about it for your future WM6 phones...TJ

TrekkerJmm said:
WOW I cant even imagine how you feel I have also installed WIMP and it works very well for lost or stolen phones. You may want to think about it for your future WM6 phones...TJ
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An even better option is spb sprite terminator. It lets you lock the phone, change password, erase your sensitive files, find out who his friends are (hopefully you can get to him via his friend), among some useful features.