Can we use the Sandisk 'Ultra' line? If yes, does anybody know if the faster transfer rate of the Ultra card is supported by the XDA?
try using pocketmecanics it got a benchmark tool
and that seem to show that
the xda2 at least use the pretty slow intel xcale internal sd interface
making the xda1 faster when it comes to sd speed
with mechanics you can compare your result with a list of pda's with different sd cards
non of them ever reach ultra speeds
heck they dont even reach the max speed of normal sd cards
if you compare the speed with the same card in a SD card reader
but that dont mean there is not difference in speed
like Sandisk is the slowest thing ever
I'm using a Panasonic 512MB SD Card and it's supposedly faster (and better) than the SanDisk Ultra.
YMMV
Hi, does anyone know what the max supported speed is? I can buy a 2 mb/s write and 3 mb/s read 1 GB SD card or a 5mb/s write and 6 mb/s read for just 10€ more.
So my question is, should I pay 10€ more?
Buy the fastest
Because ifyou by a usb card reader you will be able to copy data faster.
So it only matters if I also buy a cardreader?
Hmm i wondering about this myself even, whats the different . Can anyone answer exact how fast the qtek s100 writes and read. It must be some meaning of faster memeory card. Example Simpletech has 10/10mb fast and writing speed . And Sandisk 1.5/5mb i think. Dont the phone be faster with faster memory card???? please someone?
the card reader is really slow
i've bought a Sandisk 1GB Extreme III SD card, but in fact it is slower that a normal 512MB Kingston SD card, to bad... (both around the 1MB/s with PocketMechanic SD benchmarking).
Hi,
does the Wizard have a maximum transfer speed for access to the miniSD card slot?
I'm looking for a miniSD card, and thinking of whether the Wizard can take advantage of the very high speeds of the latest cards. Is it worth giving the extra money to get a very fast card or not?
Is 150x about the fastest available?
AFAIK 80x is the fastest available miniSD
Im using it (1GB 80x)
Maybe we can do some benchmarks? any good software to test memory?
ATP claims 150x speed
georgex said:
Hi,
does the Wizard have a maximum transfer speed for access to the miniSD card slot?
I'm looking for a miniSD card, and thinking of whether the Wizard can take advantage of the very high speeds of the latest cards. Is it worth giving the extra money to get a very fast card or not?
Is 150x about the fastest available?
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Don't bother spending extra money for a high speed card. Even going back to the earliest days of PPC's, it's all about the PPC's I/O to the media card. The only real advantages of a high speed card is when using with a digital camera or when using the card in a card reader.
I have a Sandisk 1gb card that runs just fine in my K-JAM. On my 2750, I have a 1GB Lexar sd and 1gb Lexar CF.
JNGold said:
Don't bother spending extra money for a high speed card. Even going back to the earliest days of PPC's, it's all about the PPC's I/O to the media card. The only real advantages of a high speed card is when using with a digital camera or when using the card in a card reader.
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Thanks! That's an answer for one of my questions. Could you please try to help me a little bit more?
Sorry to ask that way...
Regards
georgex said:
Hi,
does the Wizard have a maximum transfer speed for access to the miniSD card slot?
I'm looking for a miniSD card, and thinking of whether the Wizard can take advantage of the very high speeds of the latest cards. Is it worth giving the extra money to get a very fast card or not?
Is 150x about the fastest available?
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You won't be able to use the full potential of fast cards. Please read http://pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17921 for my article on all this stuff.
I'm glad I found this thread. I've installed some software onto the miniSD card and I noticed they load slower. The worsest problem is now the soft keyboard selection menu takes a full 7 seconds to pull up. I was thinking about buying a faster miniSD to solve this problem, looks like I'll just have to live with it.
Hello All I have a very simple question but plays a very important role in performance.
I got a 2GB SD CARD FROM SAMSUNG.
I have another LOCAL SD CARD 4GB
My question is will the SPEED Remain same to transfer or access data from both these SD CARDS.
I mean to say is will the LOCAL SD CARD BE SLOWER(since its not samsung branded) IN ACCESSING AND RETRIEVING DATA which will eventually slow down my phone or something like that.
I hope you all understood my question..will elaborate if u want me to.
hoping for a good answer.
Thanks
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cumon guys a small opinion would make a big difference
I am not very knowledgeable about this, but the class of the SD card matters when comparing performance. Here is a link that might help:
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/speed_class/
i have noticed that when i changed sd card from samsung original (came with phone) to new transcend 8gb sd card, phone is now booting for 5 minutes....
It being a samsung card doesn't make the card more "compatible" with a samsung phone. A card is defined by the card, not by the brand.
martin.jeremic said:
i have noticed that when i changed sd card from samsung original (came with phone) to new transcend 8gb sd card, phone is now booting for 5 minutes....
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yeah so it means that performance has degraded right.
Also i think booting is not much worry as its done from ROM
so apart from booting what else is buggy or degrading performance,comparing both 2 GB and 8 GB
its on a card to card basis, if it is slower for him it doesnt mean it will be slower for you.
You should use a Class 6 SD card. Slower cards are not adequate.
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You can use a class 6 SD card, however, i do not think the phone is capable of handling such high speed cards, and thus the read/write speed of the phone will limit the speed.
Conclusively i don't think there will be an increase in performance!
I think it is ridiculous to have the Xoom only be compatible with only Micro-SD card instead of regular SD card. It is not like the tab is so small that the regular SD card would not fit. It is NOT a phone.
Regular SD card has the benefit of:
1. Much much cheaper for a bigger space.
2. Did I say it is cheaper for a bigger space...?
3. Faster speed
I am not sure if it will use more energy and decrease battery life. But even still, how much more energy can it actually drain compared to the micro-SD card.
Sometimes I have no idea what the designers/engineers are thinking when they develop technology. There is always a missing screw somewhere.
Wow...I am finish ranting...
What a relief.....
Erm, internal space?
Earthbrain said:
I think it is ridiculous to have the Xoom only be compatible with only Micro-SD card instead of regular SD card. It is not like the tab is so small that the regular SD card would not fit. It is NOT a phone.
Regular SD card has the benefit of:
1. Much much cheaper for a bigger space.
2. Did I say it is cheaper for a bigger space...?
3. Faster speed
I am not sure if it will use more energy and decrease battery life. But even still, how much more energy can it actually drain compared to the micro-SD card.
Sometimes I have no idea what the designers/engineers are thinking when they develop technology. There is always a missing screw somewhere.
Wow...I am finish ranting...
What a relief.....
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What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
EnderTheThird said:
What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
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+1
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Maybe you can find some space behind the back cover to put one of these in? Might be worth a shot..
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001
While I agree that MicroSD is more compatible with other devices, I would imagine a normal SD card would give the Xoom a more competitive advantage over the iPads in terms of the amount of overall storage that they can use. There are already 64GB SD cards, while I believe the max for a MicroSD is still 32GB. (Correct me if I am wrong.)
blakejohnson86 said:
While I agree that MicroSD is more compatible with other devices, I would imagine a normal SD card would give the Xoom a more competitive advantage over the iPads in terms of the amount of overall storage that they can use. There are already 64GB SD cards, while I believe the max for a MicroSD is still 32GB. (Correct me if I am wrong.)
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You're wrong MicroSD has support for SDXC however, most devices are not SDXC compatible. Just as you will find that most SD card readers are not SDXC compatible.
Earthbrain said:
I think it is ridiculous to have the Xoom only be compatible with only Micro-SD card instead of regular SD card. It is not like the tab is so small that the regular SD card would not fit. It is NOT a phone.
Regular SD card has the benefit of:
1. Much much cheaper for a bigger space.
2. Did I say it is cheaper for a bigger space...?
3. Faster speed
I am not sure if it will use more energy and decrease battery life. But even still, how much more energy can it actually drain compared to the micro-SD card.
Sometimes I have no idea what the designers/engineers are thinking when they develop technology. There is always a missing screw somewhere.
Wow...I am finish ranting...
What a relief.....
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I only wish that what is already there would work.
EnderTheThird said:
What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
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But if the Xoom had a SD slot instead of MicroSD you could just use that same MicroSD card with the adapter in the Xoom.
If you're gonne be swapping out a card from the Xoom to a phone, you might as well be using the SD slot to store the MicroSD to SD adapter.
It would cost Moto pennies to include the adapter in that slot, but still allow people to just dump it and use a regular SD card in there if they want to
In my opinion, its all about having options. (Thats why we like android after all) An SD card slot would give us options, to use a MicroSD in there with an adapter, or to use a regular SD if we'd rather do that. The MicroSD slot doesn't give us the same option in reverse.
Its really not a big deal to me, but thats just what the case in favor of it would be.
Why can't my aunt have male genitals... then she'd be my uncle and we could play basketball together.
WHY?????
gbenj said:
But if the Xoom had a SD slot instead of MicroSD you could just use that same MicroSD card with the adapter in the Xoom.
If you're gonne be swapping out a card from the Xoom to a phone, you might as well be using the SD slot to store the MicroSD to SD adapter.
It would cost Moto pennies to include the adapter in that slot, but still allow people to just dump it and use a regular SD card in there if they want to
In my opinion, its all about having options. (Thats why we like android after all) An SD card slot would give us options, to use a MicroSD in there with an adapter, or to use a regular SD if we'd rather do that. The MicroSD slot doesn't give us the same option in reverse.
Its really not a big deal to me, but thats just what the case in favor of it would be.
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That is my thought exactly.
That is why I made this post.
EnderTheThird said:
What you forget is that by sticking with MicroSD it's more compatible with other devices. If you want to put that same card into your phone or any other mobile device, you have greater compatibility with MicroSD. If you want to put it in a regular SD card device, you can do so with an adapter, but you wouldn't have that same versatility/compatibility with a regular SD card as you would with MicroSD.
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Uh, in the situations you described, an SD card slot would be a MUCH better choice. Having an SD card slot would give you the OPTION to use an SD card, and the OPTION to use an SD to microSD converter and use a microsd card. So if you were concerned with sharing media between phone and tablet, you would just need that little SD to microsd converter.
Edit: I see now that this point has been made multiple times.
cwizardtx said:
Why can't my aunt have male genitals... then she'd be my uncle and we could play basketball together.
WHY?????
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You too?!?! I thought I was the only one who wondered that! Lmfao classic
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I wish it had an SD card primarily for viewing pictures from digital cameras.
I do not want to put a microSD card and an adapter into my DSLR, and as many have mentioned, the larger storages and faster read/write speeds are cheaper for an SD card versus the same capacity microSD counterpart.
SD card would have made so much more sense. Hell, I don't even care if Motorola included an adapter, who the **** here has more than one microSD card and zero adapters? I think I have like 2 adapters, maybe even 3.
Micro SD jus the universal mobile standard
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Sorry man I don't really see it as a problem unless you have a camera with a regular SD card slot. If this is the case buy a MicroSD with the adapter thats what I do. If I buy any new cards I get Micro and make sure it comes with the adapter. That way I am #winning. The cards are so cheap anyway. Who would have thought you could buy and 8gb card for less then 20 bucks?
zone23 said:
Sorry man I don't really see it as a problem unless you have a camera with a regular SD card slot. If this is the case buy a MicroSD with the adapter thats what I do. If I buy any new cards I get Micro and make sure it comes with the adapter. That way I am #winning.
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"and as many have mentioned, the larger storages and faster read/write speeds are cheaper for an SD card versus the same capacity microSD counterpart."
That is why I don't want to put a microSD card in it!
pekosROB said:
"and as many have mentioned, the larger storages and faster read/write speeds are cheaper for an SD card versus the same capacity microSD counterpart."
That is why I don't want to put a microSD card in it!
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I understand the cost factor. When you get into the larger capacities the prices between a 32gb card doubles for a Micro SD. Its just another way for the man to stick it too ya.
I'm glad it's microsd, the xoom is thick enough as is imo
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Honestly guys? You make think the tablet has "plenty of space", but if you've ever done product design or circuit board layout, you'll find that anything smaller makes a big difference. I used to think the change to MicroUSB from MiniUSB was lame, but I've laid out some circuit boards with both connectors, and *MAN* are Mini USB connectors huge!
I felt the same way about the change from SD, to Mini SD, to MicroSD, but honestly, regular SD is huge.
They did it because of size guys, thats all there is to it.
If you want to connect your camera, the Xoom supports USB hosting so you can just plug it right in (Does it work with cameras? I don't have my Xoom yet, but I thought they said it does or will support this), or just use a MicroSD card in your camera. 8GB cards are like $15, and do you really need that much space in your camera? I'm a photographer (well, its a hobby) with a Canon 40D and I only carry like 6 gigs of cards on me (a 4 and a backup 2).
If you never take the pictures off your camera I could see it being an issue, but I never do that for fear of losing them if I lose the camera or the memory fails.
Anyway, none of that matters. They did it because of size. It really does make that big of a difference.