very strange problem! my PPC only works on cradle! - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

after trying to upgrade my imate Pocket PC edition, from 2003 to 2003se,
my ppc is starting to act strangely. the symptoms are:
1) it will not power up without attached to cradle, it acts as if there is no battery in the machine at all.
2) when it powers up (when its in cradle) it boots up fine and i can even sync it and even reflash it (although i have to use a small piece of bent pin to press the reset button which is covered by cradle itself)
3) but when i detatch the device from cradle, it just dies and the light wont even flash and format, hard and soft reset would not work.
4) when i plug in the battery seperatly into cradle (second slot)
aux battery indicator on the cradle would not light up.
can any one give me any advise?? :-(((

x2pacx, did your ROM update complete successfully? It sounds like your battery isn't being recognized by the ROM or WM. Try updating the ROM again or try a hard reset.

well.. how do i tell if the battery is not recognized by the battery?
i tried updating to many different roms and hard reset.. :-(
still no luck..
any advise anyone?

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Charmer will not boot unless connected to USB ?

Hi All,
I have a strange problem I wish to share (don't worry its with my Charmer !)
I am not sure when it started occuring, but now it will only boot with the USB connected. Without it I get a hangup on the 'Wondows Mobile' blue screen. Connect the USB and the version numbers on the T-Mobile boot screen come up much quicker and then after about 1 minute of the Windows blue screen it is on.
It is really weird ?
The onlys changes I have made is the registry memory improvements (mentioned in this forum) to try and get a little extra speed. I am pretty sure it did not start immediately after that though.
I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this
and if so
how did you overcome the problem.
Thanks.
yes, it is weird.
what you can do is
(1) see if it is battery. try connect it to your charger to see it boots up. If so, maybe it is a batteyr/power problem
(2) check if it is what you've done - back up (using any software) and hardreset your device. if you device is not able to boot up after hardreset, it is a hardware fault, have it serviced
Guys, I have the same problem with Time & date backup when change main battery but with more sympthoms:
Aprox. 1 month of using my XDA mini S (original O2 UK ROM) I faced to problem which seems to be HW status.
I didnt not change WM5, I did not change ROM and no new soft has been installed during last month. I have no backup manager like SPBackup or
Backup manager installed on miniSD card (or in main memory) and no backup process is planned in Today screen.
PROBLEM:
It is not possible to boot Windows Mobile after soft reset WITHOUT ORIGINAL wall charger. It does not matter if I make soft reset 5x-10times, PDA frozen on
WM5 booting logo and keeps like that for hours with backlight ON.
Neither USB-PC cable connections nor other charger (from GPS receiver 500mAh) does not help to boot WM5.
I found out, even if PDA is POWER off (Power button press for more than 3sek) and I want to turn it on, PDA freezes on Windows Mobile window.
I got answer from one hungarian service point like:
"We know the symptom that you described below. Solution for that is a software update. Unfortunately there is a built in protection in upgrading package and we can not update phone software of other country's phone."
MY SOLUTIONS:
I doubt about correct solution from service because:
I make a miniUSB cable (like for charger) and connect other main battery to this cable. When second battery is connetted instead of original charger, XDA mini S boots and restarts correctly without freezing on WM screen.
I tried to to test how original backup baterry (in fact capacitor) works - parameters in Service manual at page 81 (CG1, Gold cap, 0,07F, 70 Ohm, 3.3V, Part number 16H00012-00M).
The I connect a capacitor 3.3V, 0.02F to this USB cable. I charge a capacitor externally and try to restart device with capacitor connected on USB cable (now without 2nd battery). Everything was OK.
Then I completely discharge externall capacitor and interesting was, that device can boots up correctly even with discharded capacitor because during booting, capacitor has a time (maybe 5-15s) to recharge.
CONCLUSION:
I think the backup capacitor (Part number 16H00012-00M) is damaged.
Do you know idea where to buy it on web (the best in Central Europe for me)?
Now with external capacitor on miniUSB cable in my pocket, it allows me to make soft reset or reset if device freeze anywhere at the street without 240V original charger. "What a Soviet solution ;-)". BUT WORKS! ;-)

02 Xda Hard reset every few seconds and no charge

I have an 02 XDA IIs on 2003 updated to most recent software for 2003 via o2 site etc
Ok so I took my PDA away for a few days over christmas and the batterry ran down, and I had forgot the charger so obviously it wouldnt turn on.
I got home and put it in the charger cradle, and it wanted to do a hard reset, so I went through with that and after a few seconds the screen goes black and it then goes ding and up comes hard reset again.
It does not hard reset at a certain point of setup as if you do the process quicker it will still hard reset say after, 10-20 seconds, usually the same every time I think.
Whilst off the cradle, you cannot even switch it on and no light shows or soft reset does not work.
In the cradle only the above which I described happens...
Any help is much appreciated
Sam England
hi.. seems to be a real trouble... anyway try to re-load the rom on it... use your wm2003 cdrom or dowload from p2p or forum wm2003 on your language, then try to flash the device following on screen infos...
hope this will help,
all the best,
storm
Have you checked your sync port?
Sounds to me like pins 20,21,22 may be damaged in your charger (sync) port, one may be touching the body of the port and causing a short, creating a hard reset. Also this might be the reason why it is not charging. IMHO regards
hi sam england
is your cradle plugged into the wall socket? usb does NOT provide enough energy for the device to 'survive' the reboot. i have this 'problem' almost every time i let i discharge to much.
so plug a good idea is to charge your device with the supplied separate charger.
hope it helps ....
regards ize|man
hardware button problam i think..............
i think that your both hardware buttons softrest and power swich are jam or lock thats why it doesn't work and because of them the phone get hardreset when ever you plugin charger or cradel
if you want any help about hardware of any htc products plz connect me on my e-mail id
if you have a cradle with the battery charger, take out your battery, charge it, and put it back in the unit
It should get through its start up routine

Qtek 9100 (HTC Wizard) bricked :((

I have upgraded my Qtek 9100 with new Windows Mobile 6 WWE. After restarting the device everything worked OK, i just setted up basic things (clocks, owner information etc..) - nothing peremptory. After this I restarted it with soft reset again and it still worked... But then i shortly pressed power button (just to turn off the display) and after 10 minutes i wanted to turn it on again, but nothing happened.. The GSM LED diode still winked, but I couldnt turn the device on. So I used soft reset and again nothing happened, just GSM LED diode stopped winking. - Since this it was totaly bricked. I also tryed hard reset and bootloader mode, but none of this appered. The battery was 100% charged and I tryed to charge it again, but it didnt helped. I also tryed to take out and insert again the battery, but it still was unsuccessful What should I do now?
If the lights are still blinking then the phone still has life and appears to be operating (in some fashion). If you plug in the USB cable, does the charging light come on? If that does, then it is definetly still running.
I would suggest you taking the battery out and leaving it out for 5mins - 30mins. Then putting it back in and try turning it on. If nothing, try doing a hard reset after that. Also remove your SD card.
Good luck
Lights arent blinking at all. When I plug in the USB cable or charger, also no lights. I also tryed hard reset after plugging the battery, but again unsuccessful
Sorry, but its sure sounding like a bricked phone (although I've never heard of one that bricked sometime later. Usually its right after an upgrade).
Only other possibility is your battery has been completely drained. Can you get another battery to try in the phone? If not, then you can try jump starting the battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...38&postcount=9
Yes, I know that is bricked. What should I do to unbrick it?
Temporary brick at most if it was still running after the update. Try the different combos of battery out and in. This sounds like what a device does when the battery is bombed. If nothing, a new battery is definitely in order before you assign it permanent doorstop status. Good luck.

Universal won't boot up anymore - recoverable?

Hey guys,
unfortunately my Universal suddenly has lost his life spark! I did a normal soft reset and after that, it didn't boot up anymore. I tried to do a hard reset, but after pressing 0 (the screen shows up though) it switched off and did nothing. Even when i plug in the charger there is no LED lighting up.
My next step of course was trying to reflash it (bootloader screen works) but the upgrade programm on the computer didn't find any device connected.
So, is there any chance or method i can somehow reanimate my phone?
Thanks in advance,
loopback
loopback said:
Hey guys,
unfortunately my Universal suddenly has lost his life spark! I did a normal soft reset and after that, it didn't boot up anymore. I tried to do a hard reset, but after pressing 0 (the screen shows up though) it switched off and did nothing. Even when i plug in the charger there is no LED lighting up.
My next step of course was trying to reflash it (bootloader screen works) but the upgrade programm on the computer didn't find any device connected.
So, is there any chance or method i can somehow reanimate my phone?
Thanks in advance,
loopback
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1st thing would be to test the charger with a diffrent phone if it works fine then maybe internal problem with phone, take the battery out and put your finger across the battery terminals in the phone this will fool it into thinking there is a battery present and if the mains charger is good and the phone is fine then in theory it should allow it to boot up again. if this fails you will probably need repair
with jasjar-bl1.01-ruu-v1.2 I alway restart my JJ Leave your uni i bl an start the application Good luck
M.C.
loopback said:
Hey guys,
unfortunately my Universal suddenly has lost his life spark! I did a normal soft reset and after that, it didn't boot up anymore. I tried to do a hard reset, but after pressing 0 (the screen shows up though) it switched off and did nothing. Even when i plug in the charger there is no LED lighting up.
My next step of course was trying to reflash it (bootloader screen works) but the upgrade programm on the computer didn't find any device connected.
So, is there any chance or method i can somehow reanimate my phone?
Thanks in advance,
loopback
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Universal is able to charge only after first initializing Therefore as your device never come so fare you will not able to see any LED. Anyhow and somehow it is a good sign ( better then RED LED)
Further to your problem which was sudden switch off, leads me to think that your battery might died!! Do you still rebember what battery level it had just before switch off? Next, Do you have a spare battery to test with it? beside one more thing you could try is to take out your SIM card and Memory card and see whether you could boot up.
i tried pretty everything: spare battery, no sim/sd card, etc...
but after using the file mauric.26 has mentioned, it works again!
dont ask me why...
thank you guys!
Is the same for me I don't know why but with that file ruu-1.0....resume the uni I'm happy for you Bye
M.c.

Got a non-working Magician

Hi,
a friend showed me his broken Magician (T-Mobile MDA Compact).
It did not turn on, no led, no nothing...
I plugged in my fully charged battery from my Charmer and connected it to my power supply, same thing.
I tried to enter boot loader (power, camera, reset pin), no reaction.
Any hope for this thing? Is there a sort of even "harder" reset?
Your phone may have 'bent' or broken battery terminas that aren't making contact.
Hi,
sorry I know this doesn't answer your question at all, but I was just wondering if you managed to get your Magician fixed in the end.
My daughter's SPV M500 recently stopped working, pretty much the same symptom, so I was wondering if you were successful in fixing it, and if so, how?
Thanks in advance!
Try this- open the back of the device, undo all the screws, open until you see the circuitboard. on one side (i can't remember which one) check the widest cable that connects to the circuitboard - undo the latch and pull it out, push it back in and close the latch, then try turning it on. that cable keeps coming out in mine.
The widest ribbon, is actually the LCD ribbon.
He would have still heard the introductory 'beep' if the unit was actually working (even if the LCD wasn't connected).
i got the same problem.....
i am surfing on the net of my XDA when it shutdown i thought it was a battery problem so i try to charged it but i've noticed that it didn't opened for a couple of hours of charging. i tried to reset but it didn't work. so i decide to hard reset my phone but again it did'nt work, and now my XDA II mini WM 6.1 is totally dead.... i also tried to flash my phone but the activesync of my phone cant detect my PC, and even rebooting my phone also did'nt work.
i've also noticed the redlight blink on the led for a seconds when i charged and unplug the charger...

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