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What is the very basic programming in making applications to wm2003? like visualbasic 6.0 in the PC in there visual basic for pocket pc? Thanks Where can i get it?
there is visual studio 2003 .net
Hi,
I have started to code quite a bit for Windows Mobile 2003 and have not looked back )
You can try several different routes, the easiest and least expensive is to download the Micrsoft WM2003 SDK from their site (easier to do a google search for Windows Mobile 2003 SDK). You will need to download the SDK(s) as well as either eVB or eVC (eVB is your best option as its very similar to Visual Basic), however these tools are still quite 'hardcore' and require a fair amount of investment from you.
In addition to eVB you can try AppForge for Visual Basic 6.0 which plug's into VB6 and allows you create feature rich WM2003 applications, AppForge also installs a Booster tool on your Pocket PC device which greatly enhances he speed of the the VB apps.
The best route in my opinion is to download the Visual Studio 2005 Express Beta tools. Microsoft took Visual Studio.NET 2003 and updated allot of the tool sets, added more Mobile Device support and split up the different modules (so you will have to download what you need, i.e VB.NET Express). If you have the money you can fork out for the professional version of Visual Studio.NET 2003 which includes fulll support of Pocket PC/Windows Mobile 2003 & Smartphone devices (some through the download of the correct SDK, VS.NET can use emulators to run apps through the IDE without the need for a physical device docked with the main host).
Finally, to imporve your VB.NET coding experience and make the job of developing Pocket PC/Windows Mible 2003 apps, you can purchase (download available) a copy of AppForge CrossFire for .NET which allows you to use the Visual Studio.NET Visual Basic or C# languages.
Personally, I code nearly all of my Pocket PC apps in Visual Studio.NET 2003 using the C# lnaguage (I an one of the rare people who love C proramming)..
Cheers,
Taz
Wow.. I started this thread since sept 23 and got a new reply now.. this is a dead thread but you revived it.. thanx for your help now im currently donwloading the SDK... Thanx
Hi all,
does anyone know if there is trick to install Microsoft Visual Basic runtime in my Universal (JasJar) ?
Thanks
nicoska
There is no VB Runtime for Windows Mobile. The closest you can do is installing The .NET Compact Framework, but you will not be able to run VB Scripts or VB applications on a Windows Mobile device. At least not now anyway.
ccisn said:
There is no VB Runtime for Windows Mobile. The closest you can do is installing The .NET Compact Framework, but you will not be able to run VB Scripts or VB applications on a Windows Mobile device. At least not now anyway.
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I've installed this http://www.funambol.com/opensource/downloads.html
Is a SyncML client for PocketPC and when i tap on it ask me to install Visual Basic Runtime.
It's possible ?
thanks
nicoska
Interesting. I went there and noticed it is for PPC 2003. I tried installing it (but didn't let it go through)
It did look like it was going to install some VB Runtime for PPC. (It showed up on the screen)
Check your add/remove programs and see if it's in there. If it is, then it probably doesn't work with WM 2005.
Good luck
ccisn said:
Interesting. I went there and noticed it is for PPC 2003. I tried installing it (but didn't let it go through)
It did look like it was going to install some VB Runtime for PPC. (It showed up on the screen)
Check your add/remove programs and see if it's in there. If it is, then it probably doesn't work with WM 2005.
Good luck
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Yes, indeed. This should be a eMbedded VB Runtime, which works with WM 2003.
Visual Studio 2005 should be delivered me in the next days, and for all I read by now this will include a VB environment for WM 2005. Possibly this will be compatible to... oh wait! We're talking about Microsoft, aren't we? So, forget this about compatibility... :roll:
Yeah. I tried to create an app in eMbedded VB and it didn't work out of the box on WM 2005. I have used VS2005 and created a couple apps in VB and they work, but I needed to install the MS CF 2.0 and that was it.
I had assumed that WM 2005 was supposed to have CF 2.0, but mine did not. I also have a Qtek 9100, not a 9000. So the Jasjar's and 9000's may have it already.
thanks a lot.
Please let me know when you get the vb runtime for wm5, so then i can check if sync ml works.
bye
nicoska
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Yeah. I tried to create an app in eMbedded VB and it didn't work out of the box on WM 2005. I have used VS2005 and created a couple apps in VB and they work, but I needed to install the MS CF 2.0 and that was it.
I had assumed that WM 2005 was supposed to have CF 2.0, but mine did not. I also have a Qtek 9100, not a 9000. So the Jasjar's and 9000's may have it already.
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Can you post the app so i can test it ?
bye
nicoska
nicoska said:
Can you post the app so i can test it ?
bye
nicoska
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which app? the VS2005 one? Or the eMbedded VB one?
I actually don't have the eMbedded VB one anymore.
I'll attach this simple one created in VB off of VS2005. It just powers off or resets the device. (It is not signed)
Also if you are just curious about the CF runtime you can run \Windows\cgautil.exe and it will pop up with all the versions of the Framework. Mine only has 1.0 by default. After installing 2.0 it shows both.
I was using a bunch of VB apps on my jamin (prophet) without any problem, and all of a sudden when I try to open them i get; "there is no application associated etc."
Anyone has any clue about that? Can I install (or re-install) visual basic on wm5?
Thanks all
As I understand it, eMbedded VC++ can be used to write applications that will work in Windows Mobile 5/6. I'm curious as to what I would miss out on in terms of API. In other words, what's new and shiny in VS 2005 that would make it worth my money to purchase instead of just using eMbedded VC++?
Particularly, I'm interested in writing a Today Screen plugin (so the .Net features don't matter to me very much). Is there any API breakage between Pocket PC 2003 and Windows Mobile 5/6 regarding Today Screen .dll's?
Alternately, is there a way to use the Windows Mobile 5/6 SDK with eMbedded VC++?
embedded vc++ apps can run on wm6 devices because in most cases all arm wm apps can run on all wm devices
the beta2 of visual stuio 2008 is free and can also do what vs2005 can and more
Rudegar said:
embedded vc++ apps can run on wm6 devices because in most cases all arm wm apps can run on all wm devices
the beta2 of visual stuio 2008 is free and can also do what vs2005 can and more
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I know eMbedded VC++ apps can run on WM6, my question was more about whether there are any differences in available library/API calls using the older development platform, any name mangling issues writing DLL's, etc. Can I just use eMbedded VC++ to compile against the newest SDK libraries?
You will miss the following:
1) 1GB+ of you hard drive wasted.
2) 5 minutes wasted every time you try to access built in help
3) A lot of time lost due to slow response of the IDE
4) Programs that are not backward compatible.
5) Spending lots of money unless you have "other" ways of acquiring VS which we do not condone.
I worked with VS 2005 and still prefer eVC 4.
API is just a matter of what libraries you link to. You can get all the shiny new bells and whistles (frankly I am not familiar with any critical API, and certainly there is nothing new for today plugins) in two ways:
1) Manually unpack WM 5 or 6 SDK and link to its libs.
(Project->Settings->Link)
2) Use LoadLibrary and GetProcAddress to dynamically gain access to the API.
Oh and if you want to write today plugin check out this article and the link to RegDisplay in my signature. It is a skeleton plugin project you can use as a base.
Oh and stay away from VS 2008 at least till it comes out of beta. VS 2005 beta was the worst nightmare I ever seen and I can bet MS track record has not improved.
Hi @ll codejunkies
i want to start developing/programming without the .NET CompactFramework for our WM5/WM6 Devices..
Till now, i used Visual Studio 2005, but i think with .NET the program is only "interpreted". Now i want to compile a program that don´t need the Framework for .NET.
So my question: Which Programming Languages are available to develop this "real" exe-Programs?? and what GUIs and Compilers i can use for it?
thanxx 2 @ll
The only real option without using runtime libraries such as the .NET framework is C++.
Is therefor a SDK?
You use the same SDK you were using all along. Infact, you can even use the same Visual Studio you were using all along. Just select Visual C++ on project type, and select smart device solution, and you're ready to go! . You'll have to have extensive use of the win32 api to get started though. The basics are EXACTLY the same as the desktop version.
on the microsoft Homepage i found out, that the SKD for WM6 only support .NET???
how can i then develop and compile then to native code, without use .NET Framework????
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on the microsoft Homepage i found out, that the SKD for WM6 only support .NET???
how can i then develop and compile then to native code, without use .NET Framework????
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The SDK supports C++ as well. Visit the MSDN site for technical documentation.
nuEdy: It`s not true, SDK has tools and documetation for managed and of course native development.
As mentioned above. Embedded C++ version 4.0. Free download from the Microsoft website. Compiles for the WM 2003 SE platform SDK included in this download. Without .NET you will have to use the standard WIN32 application model, responding to WM_XXXXXX messages via WIN32 API calls. If you haven't done this before, you will have a long hard slog to master it, but the results are worth it. Start by looking at the code created by the hello world app until you understand what the hell is going on. Release .EXEs can be run directly under the WM6 SDK as this is a true ARM emulator, not the half way x86 code used by the 2003 SE SDK.
Stick to two menubar items and WM6 will display them either side of the keyboard icon as per WM6 Apps. More than two and the menubar appears in WM2002/3 mode.
So I'm interested in trying to create an application for my Windows Mobile device, a tilt. It doens't have to be anything grand, for that matter a simple calculator will sufice..
Is there a noob guide for dummies that would kind of spell out the process of building the app then deploying the app to my phone?
Anyone have some source code they would be willing to share?
I'm familiar with VB but not vb.net, I have vb.net 2002 available but worry it's too outdated???
I'm hoping you guy's can shed some light on some start to finish guidelines.
Thanks.
TW,
I'm quite interested in this question too
I'm using Visual Studio 2008 + C#, works great.
I do not like VB (anymore), but I think it's worth upgrading, 2002 -> 2008, there've been new .NET versions and so on ... I'd use a newer version.
Visual Studio 2005 + VB.NET over here. Works great. Though I'd like to upgrade to .NETCF 3.5 asap.
Please use the search, this question has been asked several (or a lot of) times before.
Hey I program with VB.Net over Visual Studio 2005
You will need an additional SDK for your phone too:
for wm6 you find it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3a-a651-4745-88ef-3d48091a390b&displaylang=en
then you can select it when you create a new project, see here
http://www.danielmoth.com/Blog/2007/02/windows-mobile-6-sdks.html
Rhapsody, any links that you could provide? are you referring to creating/compiling an app for WM6 or the golf application?
Anyone have some basic source they might like to provide? something with GPS using the "GPS Intermediate Driver" would be excellent... it sure would help to get the ball rolling.
TW,
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Rhapsody, any links that you could provide? are you referring to creating/compiling an app for WM6 or the golf application?
Anyone have some basic source they might like to provide? something with GPS using the "GPS Intermediate Driver" would be excellent... it sure would help to get the ball rolling.
TW,
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The MSDN is what you need.
http://www.msdn.com (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/nl-nl/library/bb847935(en-us).aspx)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/nl-nl/windowsmobile/default(en-us).aspx - Windows Mobile
http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn - MSDN Forums (has also a subforum for Mobile Devices)
The MSDN contains tons of information and a lot of quick start samples as well.
Thanks for the replies guys.
I'm a little confused on the different software packages that Micrsoft has available, .NET and Visual Studio, Professional, Team, etc...
Does Visual Studio 2005 include all that is needed? What's the difference between VS 2005 and VS 2008?
Thanks,
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I wanted to post back with a link I found for anyone else interested - hxxp://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/31198 it's a good article on creating setup files for your mobile device. If I can find something in VB with regard to GPS positioning and VS 2005 I think I've got a start...
tiger.woods said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
I'm a little confused on the different software packages that Micrsoft has available, .NET and Visual Studio, Professional, Team, etc...
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Yup i had the same issue, I couln't find a place where it was clearly mentioned what was needed and how to start.
Then I came across this program : basic4ppc
It's easy and not too expensive, they have a trial version available
the only drawback to the trial vesion you can only simulate the program, exporting to exe file doesn't work, you'll have to buy the program.
I liked it so much I bought it
cool, giving it a go now
tiger.woods said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
I'm a little confused on the different software packages that Micrsoft has available, .NET and Visual Studio, Professional, Team, etc...
Does Visual Studio 2005 include all that is needed? What's the difference between VS 2005 and VS 2008?
Thanks,
[EDIT]
I wanted to post back with a link I found for anyone else interested - hxxp://www.devx.com/wireless/Article/31198 it's a good article on creating setup files for your mobile device. If I can find something in VB with regard to GPS positioning and VS 2005 I think I've got a start...
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Get Visual studio 2008, you can actually get visual studio 2008 professional for free if you are a student, mainly in the US, but also abroad... check the microsoft vs 2008 website, cant remember the link
The other free version, visual studio 2008 express is useless to you since it will not do pocketpc/smartphone development
Or you can get a trial copy of VS 2008
Once you have it., you can create a new project, and you can select the pocketpc/smartphone type and you will be off to development land....