Is it possible to turn off the phone, but stay with bluetooth turn on&
you can, just switch the flight mode on (click on network indicator on the top bar and select "turn on flight mode")
Like this, phone function will be powered off, but pda and it's utilities won't.
Bluetooth will also be turned off in flight mode, all wireless communication will be
sorry to disagree but i just made the test now and with FLIGHT MODE ON my bluetooth still works.
What happens is when you turn on the flight mode the bluetooth will be disconnected, but if you turn the bluetooth on it will remain on and working.
Well then your phone must be faulty because in a flight no wireless communication is supposed to take place and when i did what you said my phone turned the bluetooth off and said "Turn off flight mode first".
In a flight any Ghz Band Communicatioin (GSM/GPRS/Bt/WiFi) Could disrupt comunications between Flight and Tower so all that has to be turned off in a flight.........
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Well then your phone must be faulty because in a flight no wireless communication is supposed to take place and when i did what you said my phone turned the bluetooth off and said "Turn off flight mode first".
In a flight any Ghz Band Communicatioin (GSM/GPRS/Bt/WiFi) Could disrupt comunications between Flight and Tower so all that has to be turned off in a flight.........
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@georgexoasi I don't disagree on your point about DSM/GPRS/WiFi because it interfere with radionic-link. Bluetooth don't because it uses not such a high impedance radio transmition to work. Although some flight companies ask not to use any kind of radio transmitions, most of flight companies allow bluetooth because it does not interfeer with radio communications and they are not able to detect if you use it or not during the flight. Also notice that bluetooth operate on 2.4GHz frequency (it's and unlicensed frequency, usually used for garage doors openers, microwave ovens, and things like that), were is no way to interfeer with plaine-tower communications that use much higher frequencies.
Still you say that your phone is able to operate BT in flight mode? That has never happened in any phone that has flight mode that i have used viz. 6630,P800,P900,P910i,I-Mate, O2-Mini. None support it. if u go to offline/flight mode all radios go off
Yes i tested again with Qtek S100 and the BT works with Flight Mode ON.
Later I can try with Nokia 9500 Communicator to see what happens.
I agree with georgexoasi. You cannot use Bluetooth when Flight mode is enabled. Maybe you did a REG tweak but normally it won't work
@georgexoasi
Did you try to do it or are you only saying that enabling Bluetooth doesn't work while in flymode? For me it makes sense to allow this to the user since people might want to use Bluetooth without using the phone (as like a normal PDA). The only possibility to turn off the phone is to go into flymode (without using any extra software). That doesn't always mean you're currently flying. On my Magician, you can go into flight mode and turn the Bluetooth radio back on. Maybe it depends on the ROM version you use.
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Bluetooth don't because it uses not such a high impedance radio transmition to work
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What are you talking about? The impedance is given by the medium (air) and can't be changed. What you mean might be the low power that is used for transmitting bluetooth signals. That indeed counts since it only can slightly interfere with the onboard electronics. But, to be honest, do you really think all people always turn off their phones on all flights. It doesn't seem that modern planes have trouble with this, which is good :shock: .
Ofcourse i tried it it is not possible
In flight mode, when I press the BT icon I get a warning: "Please switch off flight mode first!". When I switch off flight mode, BT switches ON automatically. It's weird that some device allow it. Never had a phone that allows BT in flight mode either!
I just contacted Portuguese Airforce and BT are generally allowed when flying. The criterium of allowing or not depends on the flight company.
By the way... A friend has a BlueAngel and I asked him to test this... and BT on blueangel also work when flight mode is on...
Well.keep saying it if it makes you feel better......
Adios i gues i've said what has to be and believing or not is upto u.
Ok, enough of the arguing!!! 8)
To settle this, I have a XDAIIi / Alpine and my bluetooth does NOT work when flight mode is enabled.
Coelhoapm post pictures of your today screen with flight mode enabled and the bluetooth icon showing that it is actually ON.
I actually want it to work, so is there any REG Hacks that can enable this to work, if anyone knows please post.
Cheers,
LydiaChris
flight mode
Hi i just tried flight mode then re-enabling bluetooth it left the phone switched off but said yurn on flight mode again at top of screen.
Mda2(Himalaya) 8)
Hope this helps
@georgexoasi & lydiachris
Attached the picture of my screen with Bluetooth and Flightmode enabled. I guess it's due to my old Firmware which is the first that was released (1.01 or something). This looks like a real drawback of the newer firmwares (where as I'm still looking for their advantages ...).
Enough said!!!
Sorry about that
VERY nice today screen background, where did you get it from!?!?!?
Nothing to feel sorry about. As i said, it might be due to different ROM versions. I prefer it the way it's done on my ROM actually, because I can use all combinations, especially I could use my Magician as normal PPC even when the SIM card is inserted.
Concerning your question about the background: It belongs to an extended theme for SPB Pocket Plus, called Spb Black Ext. You can download it from their site I think. I am only using the system icons for battery, light etc. from another theme because they are smaller.
hello, worse that everything you said, I tried to enable bluetooth and Wireless and both are working in flight mode.
I think is a bug from rom 1.40.0 of Qtek 9090
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Marcus
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Before installing TT5, my bluetooth worked fine, even in flight mode. After installing TT5, bluetooth does not work at all. Everytime I try to activate it, it comes with the warning: Please turn off flight mode first. My GSM part is on, so flight mode is off, but I still get the message. soft reset and re-installing TT5 did not work, neither did removing TT5 Bluetooth app.
I use TT5 as a road map, without bluetooth GPS, but no matter what I try, it keeps popping up a message every 10 secs asking me to turn flight mode off. I don't need the bluetooth to be on when using TT5, even more, I like it to stay off for power reasons.
Also after un-installing TT5, my bluetooth still does not work! Can anyone out there help me?
I get the same problem also.My bluetooth does work however as i use a bluetooth gps.I find that when your in TT5 and the message pops up,just quickly turn flight mode on then off and then you can carry on using it fine after that with no interuptions
I had the same thing. It turned out to be a 'Flightmode' program I downloaded using a link from this site. For some reason it didn't always turn BT completely back on.
Instead I found a program called RadioOff, also on this forum, and it works perfectly. No TT5 problems since this switch.
My bluetooth issues are partly resolved. by turning flight mode on, then resetting and then turning it off again bluetooth works again. Perhaps my flight mode switcher, a different one from yours, is making trouble. Can you send me the radiooff that you mentioned, since I cannot find it on the forum. my email is jdfkok at hotmail. Thanks!
I'll upload it here, so everyone has a chance to pick up this nice proggy
Don't know who made it, but it's a job well done.
thanks man! I will report back to you if it solved my problems
Hi, just tested it and I think it is the same one I already use! Byte count is exactly the same, just the name and icon are different. But I noticed another thing...When I switch on flight mode with both apps, my bluetooth stays on and can be switched on and off. When I switch flight mode on using the standard windows application in the phone bubble, bluetooth goes off as well and cannot be switched on again! Looks like the app you posted makes it possible to use bluetooth while the gsm is off, while the normal way to enter flight mode also shuts down the bluetooth radio. interesting find! Now all the problems I had can beresolved by using the right way to switch flight mode on and off. Thanks for your help!
Happy to help Although I find it very weird that 'Radio Off' means that BT is still running! But maybe it's made for a non-BT device?
Yes, strange isn't it? But might be helpful in some circumstances to have it work like this. I know I won't touch my bluetooth settings anymore, now I have this sorted out, don't want to spend another 2 hours figuring out how to switch it the way I want :wink:
Have teh same problem with QTek s100, can't turn on bluetooth (get "turn on flight mode first"). Sorry, where did you get RadioOff.exe program? Seek all the site and forum and didn't see where can I download it.
Dear all,
I'm wondering about Wifi telephony on the QTEK 9100.
It works fairly well with various software soutions. However, the phone has to stay "fully on" (except backlight) in order for th Wifi connection to remain up. This alters battery life severely.
I'm wondering if it is possible to have the Wifi connection stay up during power save mode, with some kind of "Wake on WLAN" event that would wake up the phone so that IP phone software can process incoming data.
Some of it already happens for GSM. I'm wondering whether the GSM part is "fully independant" (like on a different processor), or if it's handled by the main processor. In the later case, it may be possible to achieve something similar with Wifi telephony.
Thanks in advance for any hint.
so there is no way having WIFI enabled and lettign the pda go to sleep mode / power save mode ??
is there an APP that leaves power save mode off if the WIFI is enabled, so only the screen goes of light, and the pda stays on ?
P.
nbougues said:
Some of it already happens for GSM. I'm wondering whether the GSM part is "fully independant" (like on a different processor), or if it's handled by the main processor. In the later case, it may be possible to achieve something similar with Wifi telephony.
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It's fully independent. It's very cleverly written; this is why, for example, listening to incoming IMAP IDLE or Push Mail callbacks don't require the CPU at all.
yes i got that part on my own, thats why the GPRS connection stays on... but still there should be a registry somewhere to prevent device to go to sleep if WIFI conneciton is made..
tried all the powermode stuff in regisrty, nothn worked... out of clue...
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yes i got that part on my own, thats why the GPRS connection stays on... but still there should be a registry somewhere to prevent device to go to sleep if WIFI conneciton is made..
tried all the powermode stuff in regisrty, nothn worked... out of clue...
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I don't think you can do this - the WI-Fi module is completely independent of the radio module. Furthermore, you'll constantly need a LOT of power to keep the Wi-Fi connection up, as opposed to GSM/GPRS, where handshaking is only done during roaming to another cell and/or every (AFAIK) 10-20 minutes. Otherwise, the PDA doesn't trasmit anything, a sopposed to the Wi-Fi case.
That is, it seem sit's impossible to do any long-term Wi-Fi "listening" in the current Wi-Fi / PPC architecture.
papizdono said:
yes i got that part on my own, thats why the GPRS connection stays on... but still there should be a registry somewhere to prevent device to go to sleep if WIFI conneciton is made..
tried all the powermode stuff in regisrty, nothn worked... out of clue...
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I don't think you can do this - the WI-Fi module is completely independent of the radio module. Furthermore, you'll constantly need a LOT of power to keep the Wi-Fi connection up, as opposed to GSM/GPRS, where handshaking is only done during roaming to another cell and/or every (AFAIK) 10-20 minutes. Otherwise, the PDA doesn't trasmit anything, a sopposed to the Wi-Fi case.
That is, it seem sit's impossible to do any long-term Wi-Fi "listening" in the current Wi-Fi / PPC architecture.
all i need is a tool that disables POWERSAVE mode if WIFI connections is made, or even if WIFI is enabled...
that would do all the work....
anyone ?
i think the closest thing is in phm powertoys (http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/PowerToys/)
the screensaver option... what it does is turn off your touchscreen like in "sleep" mode but if u use this you might want to disable the power save option cause while u have screensaver on its still gonna count down n shut off ur ppc hope this helps!
My girlfriend would like to borrow my MDA for TomTom use.
I would like to turn off all phone functions, but can't find the option.
Flight mode also disables Bluetooth, so thats no use. Diverting all call's does not stop SMS messages.
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My girlfriend would like to borrow my MDA for TomTom use.
I would like to turn off all phone functions, but can't find the option.
Flight mode also disables Bluetooth, so thats no use. Diverting all call's does not stop SMS messages.
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Remove the SIM
Tap the sigal icon and in the ballon popup there should be a flight mode option.
When I put my phone into flight mode I can still use wifi and bluetooth - just use the comm manager to turn each function back on as required. The phone becomes a PDA in flight mode with everything else bar the phone still being functional. If you still can't get bluetooth back on then you're doing something wrong.
Just swicth off the phone in the Comm Manager. You can leave the other (BT or Wifi) on if you need them.
Flight mode will turn off everything (wifi, BT, and phone).
Does anyone know how to turn off the 3G radio without turning off the GPS?
I know the airplane mode trick will turn off 3G but that also turns off GPS, which some Google apps need.
I hope Google gives us dedicated radio toggles in 3.1.
Try unchecking 'Data enabled' in mobile network settings
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Try unchecking 'Data enabled' in mobile network settings
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That is the correct way to do it.
Airplane mode really should be used when you want ALL of the wireless turned off, including wifi. It's strange that it lets you turn it back on while in airplane mode. I guess it makes sense for those planes that now have wifi.
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Airplane mode really should be used when you want ALL of the wireless turned off, including wifi. It's strange that it lets you turn it back on while in airplane mode. I guess it makes sense for those planes that now have wifi.
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Also how i use my phone overseas without having to worry about a big ass bill.
Are you sure GPS is off in Airplane Mode? I run in A-M too when I'm on WiFi, and I've definately seen the "GPS on" indicator come up when doing something that needs my location.
But to be sure, I downloaded "GPS Test" from the market, turned on Airplane Mode after getting it, and GPS test was able to see some 6 satellites (inside- we have some really nice hardware!).
I don't think GPS is off when in A-M.
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Airplane mode really should be used when you want ALL of the wireless turned off, including wifi. It's strange that it lets you turn it back on while in airplane mode. I guess it makes sense for those planes that now have wifi.
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Well, it actually does kill-switch everything when enabled- which is what it's supposed to do, but it's a good thing that it allows selective re-enabling of BT and WiFi.
Besides, GPS is a reciever (unlike BT/WiFi which also Xmit), but while I'm aware of the heterodyne issue, that leakage is FAR smaller, and the only way to fix that is to turn off the device altogether.
I'm using this as an ipod replacement and I finally figured out how to turn off the cell radio, I think.
open dial pad
dial *#*#4636#*#* (If Testing menu doesn’t come up then click "Call" and it will come up)
go to Phone information
Scroll down
turn off radio
I assumed wrongly before that the cell radio was automatically turned off since I didn't have a sim card AND since the option to turn off 3G data was disabled in the Wireless settings section. But out of curiosity, I clicked on battery info and it said that my cell radio was on this whole time! See attachment.
Turning on Airplane does turn off the cell, but it also turned off the Wifi and GPS. You can turn Wifi back on after Airplane mode, but it doesn't work properly, try using XMBC remote with Airplane mode and Wifi on, it doesn't work.
So, I guess I'll see tomorrow if this really works but so far it looks promising!
sweet thanks for the info
Get tasker and make a toggle switch of the code
Neo3D said:
I'm using this as an ipod replacement and I finally figured out how to turn off the cell radio, I think.
open dial pad
dial *#*#4636#*#* (If Testing menu doesn’t come up then click "Call" and it will come up)
go to Phone information
Scroll down
turn off radio
I assumed wrongly before that the cell radio was automatically turned off since I didn't have a sim card AND since the option to turn off 3G data was disabled in the Wireless settings section. But out of curiosity, I clicked on battery info and it said that my cell radio was on this whole time! See attachment.
Turning on Airplane does turn off the cell, but it also turned off the Wifi and GPS. You can turn Wifi back on after Airplane mode, but it doesn't work properly, try using XMBC remote with Airplane mode and Wifi on, it doesn't work.
So, I guess I'll see tomorrow if this really works but so far it looks promising!
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I tried the keypad code you listed and nothing happens. I really need a way to turn off the phone and keep bluetooth on while at work in order to listen to my music with bluetooth headphones. I was able to use the code successfully before the Froyo update.
On mine, I simply switch on airplane mode then switch on wifi. Voila! Phone off, wifi on.
Nevermind, did not see reply that some apps don't work with this workaround...
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Couldn't you just pull the SIM card???
Edit - Nevermind. I suppose the radio is still on for emergency calls...