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Hi all.
Recently got the new Coreplayer (formerly TCPMP but now commercial version with built in codecs).
Please feel free to download the .zip file which contains 4 differently encoded 1 minute video files taken from a vob/DVD source file for benchmarking/comparison purposes.
I've had mixed results and would appreciate any feedback, especially with regards to the AVC test video, as I simply cannot get it to bench past 106% successfully on my Hermes. Considering the H264 codec is supposedly the way to go in terms of great balance between quality and file size, I'm really trying hard to achieve this. It has been achieved by many across many other platforms, but I've not heard from anyone with a Hermes having had good results as yet.
Sorry about the poor quality jpeg of Benchmark results, but the .zip file has a larger and better copy within it.
There's much discussion going on over at:
http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.0
Please feel free to join in and contribute.
Downloads at the bottom of this post (hopefully). No, sorry Uploads failed! Will try again when I hear back from webmaster. Unless anyone knows where I can upload a 14mb zip file (4 small video files).
I havent used coreplayer yet but the version of tcpmp im running (and using the imate ROM) REALLY likes avi files encoded with xVid mpeg4(2 pass)....using auto gordian knott technique.
managed to get a decent few hours of synced playback no problem with that encoding method.
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Hi all.
Downloads at the bottom of this post (hopefully). No, sorry Uploads failed! Will try again when I hear back from webmaster. Unless anyone knows where I can upload a 14mb zip file (4 small video files).
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The Wiki seems to allow bigger uploads
Mike
I found that if the video res is higher than the screen, it chugs like no other...haven't tested with regular res yet.
DivX 6.4.0 & DVDx....excellent on Hermes!!
I've had some pleasing results at last, but not through CoreAVC. Instead I'm having much better results using CoreASP. I'm now using Divx 6.4.0 with DVDx and am encoding using Divx's High Quality setting 4. This omits the need for choosing the appropriate bitrate and the resluting file still ends up smaller than MP4 H264 or x264 etc.
In the Divx codec settings I choose 'Auto detect' for 'Noise Reduction' and 'Bicubic Sharp' for 'Resize Filter' on the 'Video properties' page and 320x240 resolution. On the 'Main' page I choose 'HQ 4' setting....that's it. It takes a little longer to encode than I would like e.g. 55 minutes for a 80 minute movie, but it really does look like High Def on a small screen, Benchmarks comfortably in excess of 125% and more and additionally plays with the type of fluidity that leaves no room for complaint. 277mb for 80min of VERY HQ with no blocking/artifacts of any kind.
I've only tested an animated film at this stage but will encode an action movie to see if I get the same pleasing results. If I do, my quest ends here. I'll post my findings shortly, either way.
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Thanks mike, but I've found a much better way of encoding IMHO, so I don't need to upload anymore.
Hi all.
After some more testing and lots of encodes, i thought I'd share my findings.
In short, I encoded to low and high bit rate vids:
1) AVC MP4s using Nero Recode and Super (.mp4)
2) Standard MP4s using ImToo DVD to Ipod Converter (.mp4)
3) PocketDivxEncoder (.avi)
4) 3GP Converter v031 & 034 (.mp4 AVC & .avi)
5) DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 (.avi)
Best results were still no.5 DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 nothing else even came close in terms of quality but AVC by far generated the smallest filesizes, as did PocketDivxEncoder.
I wonder how you guys managed to run a video on TyTN using the CorePlayer at all, as it does not support the ATI Graphics chip in the right way.
When I try to start a video playback, I get a real shaked display that is unreadable.
See also here: http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3333.0
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I wonder how you guys managed to run a video on TyTN using the CorePlayer at all, as it does not support the ATI Graphics chip in the right way.
When I try to start a video playback, I get a real shaked display that is unreadable.
See also here: http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3333.0
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I'm having same problem. Any other alternative soft meanwhile?
That's a known bug. Picard & BetaBoy are aware of it and are waiting for information from ATI. ITMT use Raw Frame Buffer.
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Hi all.
After some more testing and lots of encodes, i thought I'd share my findings.
In short, I encoded to low and high bit rate vids:
1) AVC MP4s using Nero Recode and Super (.mp4)
2) Standard MP4s using ImToo DVD to Ipod Converter (.mp4)
3) PocketDivxEncoder (.avi)
4) 3GP Converter v031 & 034 (.mp4 AVC & .avi)
5) DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 (.avi)
Best results were still no.5 DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 nothing else even came close in terms of quality but AVC by far generated the smallest filesizes, as did PocketDivxEncoder.
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what is the difference in size between pocketdivxencoder and dvdx? (trying to determine if i should switch over now, or wait till i get a 2gb card.
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what is the difference in size between pocketdivxencoder and dvdx? (trying to determine if i should switch over now, or wait till i get a 2gb card.
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Hi y2whisper. Sorry about the long delay, but been tied up. Not literally.lol.
Anyway....pocketdivxencoder is great and results in fairly small filesizes due to its 2 pass encoding process. You can achieve the same with DVDx & DivX 6.4.0 by specifying one of the multi-pass functions (haven't actually used though). From my experience (using other software), you'll get better quality vids with 1 pass encodes, but smaller files with 2 Pass. The choice is yours.
I chose a new 2GB card and the 1 Pass method outlined in my previous post. There's no looking back for me. Hope it works out for you.
Hey thanks for the response, i will try it and and see the actual size of files, haven't done movies in a while, normally just shows i taped and recap while on the treadmill
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Hi all.
After some more testing and lots of encodes, i thought I'd share my findings.
In short, I encoded to low and high bit rate vids:
1) AVC MP4s using Nero Recode and Super (.mp4)
2) Standard MP4s using ImToo DVD to Ipod Converter (.mp4)
3) PocketDivxEncoder (.avi)
4) 3GP Converter v031 & 034 (.mp4 AVC & .avi)
5) DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 (.avi)
Best results were still no.5 DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 nothing else even came close in terms of quality but AVC by far generated the smallest filesizes, as did PocketDivxEncoder.
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thx mackaby007, i'm going to try DVDx now.
tried with nero and avc, but it just doesn't play smoothly with LVSW 5-20-07
have you tried any more combinations?
Suggest you give AutoGK a go.
Ive already posted about my findings in this thread (see post 19 onwards) MUCH success with it.
AutoGK rocks, got some great results with it, thx mrvanx
compared the results with avc and avc is pretty good for filesize/quality but the hermes can't play it without jerkiness. autogk+xvid=awesome quality
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AutoGK rocks, got some great results with it, thx mrvanx
compared the results with avc and avc is pretty good for filesize/quality but the hermes can't play it without jerkiness. autogk+xvid=awesome quality
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No problem. I figured it would be widely known!?!
Im currently updating my hermes upgrade guide to have a tutorial on making decent looking vids.
I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
spacecat said:
I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
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Get tcpmp downloaded.......if that doesnt improve the playback it might be the same reason why the hermes was crap at video playback.....the OS sucks!
the hermes now plays videos quite nicely on WM6.....are you still on WM5?
no I am on wm6
I read another thread and am trying some different settings so hopefully it will mprove
still for such a pricey device it should work out of the box
it is most likely the conversion software you r using or the format that its in. i use spb mobile dvd 1.2 and i convert it into wmv so i can use wmp10 and not TCPMP. if you want to try a "TRIAL " copy i can send it to you, just drop me a line.
[email protected]
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it is most likely the conversion software you r using or the format that its in. i use spb mobile dvd 1.2 and i convert it into wmv so i can use wmp10 and not TCPMP. if you want to try a "TRIAL " copy i can send it to you, just drop me a line.
[email protected]
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email has been sent
err its ok i seem to have found the TRIAL copy
nice video here i use tcmp and select the video driver ATI
run a few tests and its better but cant touch PSP AVC movies for quality
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I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
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Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
I'm still on WM5 and tge movie quality is absolutely sensational. On the other hand, it is crap on both of my two PSPs! I don't bother using my PSPs. I think it is potentially possible to have quality video if I get the settings right in PSP, just like you can have quality video on thus device if your setting is right.
Be careful with the ATI fix cab. I just installed it on the Athena and now my device can not boot pass the second splashscreen
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Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
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you said you did two test in 640x368 what software did you use. thanks
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Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
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im gonna look into it as im sure this can be improved but why does it struggle so much at 25 fps
on my psp i cn get 29.97 fps and razor sharp definition using AVC or PMPMOD with no dropped frames at all. Everyone i have ever shown my psp movies to are blown away by the picture quality. the Athena movies look grainy and pixellated in comparison
Im sure the Athena can do more but its a pain finding out
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im gonna look into it as im sure this can be improved but why does it struggle so much at 25 fps
on my psp i cn get 29.97 fps and razor sharp definition using AVC or PMPMOD with no dropped frames at all. Everyone i have ever shown my psp movies to are blown away by the picture quality. the Athena movies look grainy and pixellated in comparison
Im sure the Athena can do more but its a pain finding out
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The PSP was designed for multimedia exclusively. every last detail in this respect has been thought through. The Ameo serves a multitude of purposes and utilizes thirdparty software for a great deal of applications. With a few tweaks it works a treat, but its not the same thing. The PSP is an out of the box video and gaming solution and isnt really comparable. Try browsing effectively, typing a word document or sending a text or making a call on your PSP - that would impress your mates!
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The PSP was designed for multimedia exclusively. every last detail in this respect has been thought through. The Ameo serves a multitude of purposes and utilizes thirdparty software for a great deal of applications. With a few tweaks it works a treat, but its not the same thing. The PSP is an out of the box video and gaming solution and isnt really comparable. Try browsing effectively, typing a word document or sending a text or making a call on your PSP - that would impress your mates!
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I am not denying what you are saying but I would have thought that a brand new top of the range device costing 700 pounds woud be able to out perform a 2 year old device that you can now pick up for 100 pounds.
I am very happy with most aspects of my Athena its a great device for many things but for movies its quite poor.
I did a conversion in spb dvd at 640x336 as recommended but it was
still poor. The only one that has looked comparable was a 640x480
conversion at 25fps. it looked good but kept skipping frames.
also if you stopped it the player stopped working .TCPMP and CORE
if anyone has a definitive programme and settings for making near dvd quality movies without skipping I would be very interested to hear
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I am not denying what you are saying but I would have thought that a brand new top of the range device costing 700 pounds woud be able to out perform a 2 year old device that you can now pick up for 100 pounds.
I am very happy with most aspects of my Athena its a great device for many things but for movies its quite poor.
I did a conversion in spb dvd at 640x336 as recommended but it was
still poor. The only one that has looked comparable was a 640x480
conversion at 25fps. it looked good but kept skipping frames.
also if you stopped it the player stopped working .TCPMP and CORE
if anyone has a definitive programme and settings for making near dvd quality movies without skipping I would be very interested to hear
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I agree with you to a degree, although the Ameo is tied to the fact that it uses a generic OS (which automatically leaves it open to performance issue). The PSP on the other hand has an OS specifically designed for it.
I find that since i installed the HTC 001 rom i dont have any playback problems at all. I always select ATI Imageon rather than ATI imageon decoder, and also choose microdrive mode. it works for me
I just tried your settings , I was playing from the memory card
used the microdrive and the ati imageon MUCH MUCH better
no skipping . this was with a 640x336 clip .
I will see what a full 640x480 at 25fps can do tonite
cheers
here is what i use:
Player: TCPMP 0.81 with all plugins
Driver: ATi Imageon
Storage: Microdrive
Bitrate: 600kbps (benchmarked at 625, so 600 is safe )
Framerate: 25fps
Encoder: Divx 6.1
Quality: Insane
Audio: AC3, lowest bitrate etc
works a charm
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here is what i use:
Player: TCPMP 0.81 with all plugins
Driver: ATi Imageon
Storage: Microdrive
Bitrate: 600kbps (benchmarked at 625, so 600 is safe )
Framerate: 25fps
Encoder: Divx 6.1
Quality: Insane
Audio: AC3, lowest bitrate etc
works a charm
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what prog do u use to encode the movies?
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what prog do u use to encode the movies?
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WinAVI, email me for a 'trial'
I want to watch some videos on my Touch 64/128, but 1 video is about 700MB.
Witch program should I use and do I have to convert it to some other format (not .avi)?
Thanks!
try windows movie maker .. haves a format just for pda phones!!
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try windows movie maker .. haves a format just for pda phones!!
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I haven't use it before. Can you tell me what do I have to do to make .avi to pda format???
matumartin14 said:
I haven't use it before. Can you tell me what do I have to do to make .avi to pda format???
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Very easy.
Just install a Pocket PC Video Converter application onto your PC such as, Apex Free Pocket PC Video Converter.
Then use this application to transform or convert all video files to PDA playable format.
Of course, afterwards, you need to copy the outcome to PDA to play..
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Very easy.
Just install a Pocket PC Video Converter application onto your PC such as, Apex Free Pocket PC Video Converter.
Then use this application to transform or convert all video files to PDA playable format.
Of course, afterwards, you need to copy the outcome to PDA to play..
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Thank you very much!
Problem!!!
One question.
I want to convert a 700mb movie, but the trial versions won't let me convert it!!!
Is somewhere a full version? (FREEE)
the best tool for converting video is Spb Mobile DVD it has very good converting profiles and for tcpmp also and you can decide if you want to cut 16:9 or 4:3 but its not for free. you should buy it or use google to gain it, maybe you get it..
the video size decrease to ~270mb for 1 hour movie
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One question.
I want to convert a 700mb movie, but the trial versions won't let me convert it!!!
Is somewhere a full version? (FREEE)
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Look into some free alternatives that will transcode videos. Try Super, MediaCoder, or PocketDivXEncoder.
Youtube
thanks hotmail!
Can I watch youtube videos with TCPMP player???
Here's what i do
I use DVDshrink (freeware) to rip the main bits off a dvd to my hard drive
I then use AutoGordianKnot (AutoGK) Freeware to convert the dvd rip into an avi and play it using TCMP or coreplayer.
I've ripped Monsters Inc entire movie into 400k and it's perfectly watchable!
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thanks hotmail!
Can I watch youtube videos with TCPMP player???
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Yes indeed, TCPMP will play Youtube videos. Funny... I just posted on this very subject in another thread. Go figure.
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... I've ripped Monsters Inc entire movie into 400k and it's perfectly watchable!
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400k!!!! That's some SERIOUS compression. I'll have to blow the dust off my old 3.5" floppy disk drive and start using it for movie storage. Are you sure it wasn't 400MB? That'd be typical of high quality Xvid, Divx or WMV compression at or lower than 640x480.
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I use DVDshrink (freeware) to rip the main bits off a dvd to my hard drive
I then use AutoGordianKnot (AutoGK) Freeware to convert the dvd rip into an avi and play it using TCMP or coreplayer.
I've ripped Monsters Inc entire movie into 400k and it's perfectly watchable!
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Could you tell me how did you do this? (Step by Step)
I have a few 700mb movies on my computer and I want them on my ppc, but they are too big. So if you could post here how did you do this, then I will be vey happy!!!
Hi there.
I'm very interested in bying this HTC Touch, basicaly for it portability but i'm very concerned about it CPU and general perfomance.
I now have the HTC 3600 and i'm very happy with it's perfomance. My usage is normal, not many programs at the same time but i like to see some movies some times and i'll like to use TomTom via bluetooth if i bye the touch.
What do you think? Am i get perfomance issues with tomtom or to see some movies?
Thanks in advance!
matumartin14 - I've had very good results using pocketdivxencoder (0.3.96). I've converted several DVD's (VOBs), divx movies and divx tv shows for use on my Elfin. I have a lot of experience using old school tools, but pocketdivxencoder does everything I need fast and painlessly. I can whip up a short guide if you like.
Hugo RSF - I've actually been fairly impressed with the video performance of the Elfin. For years I used a Dell X5 basic which has a 300MHz Xscale (overclockable to 400MHz) and I've notice no loss of performance with my 201 MHz OMAP, other than the smaller screen (2.8" vs 4.0").
I've used an external GPS with my Elfin on several occasions (using Nav4all), but never TomTom so I couldn't comment on that.
Prism Video Encoder also works well. Basically convert anything to anything and wickedly simple to use. Usually convert to MP4 and Elf plays them in good quality no problem at all.
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matumartin14 - I've had very good results using pocketdivxencoder (0.3.96). I've converted several DVD's (VOBs), divx movies and divx tv shows for use on my Elfin. I have a lot of experience using old school tools, but pocketdivxencoder does everything I need fast and painlessly. I can whip up a short guide if you like.
Hugo RSF - I've actually been fairly impressed with the video performance of the Elfin. For years I used a Dell X5 basic which has a 300MHz Xscale (overclockable to 400MHz) and I've notice no loss of performance with my 201 MHz OMAP, other than the smaller screen (2.8" vs 4.0").
I've used an external GPS with my Elfin on several occasions (using Nav4all), but never TomTom so I couldn't comment on that.
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Ok thanks!
If I have a 700mb movie and i convert it, then how small would it be??? MB???
Depends on the quality of the video and audio that you can live with. A full length movie can be compressed down to around 165 MB and still be fairly watchable if your hurting for space. I'm pretty picky about quality and shoot for around 250 to 350 MB for a full length movie.
I'm in the process of converting X-Files episodes and so far they are ending up around 110 MB in size (approx. 45 min each).
You can get much better compression with MP4 (h.264), but from what I can tell, the Elfin is too slow to decode h.264 without dropping frames. My h.264 testing was done using streams created by RipBot and meGUI.
As far as a conversion guide, should I start a new thread or just post one here?
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matumartin14 - I've had very good results using pocketdivxencoder (0.3.96). ....
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From the website:
This soft doesn't allow you to copy commercial DVDs...
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I've purchased DVDs (strictly legal) and want to view them on my Touch - but can't with this software. I have a package to convert DVD to iPod format, but the playback on the Touch is jerky.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
posting
trueg said:
Depends on the quality of the video and audio that you can live with. A full length movie can be compressed down to around 165 MB and still be fairly watchable if your hurting for space. I'm pretty picky about quality and shoot for around 250 to 350 MB for a full length movie.
I'm in the process of converting X-Files episodes and so far they are ending up around 110 MB in size (approx. 45 min each).
You can get much better compression with MP4 (h.264), but from what I can tell, the Elfin is too slow to decode h.264 without dropping frames. My h.264 testing was done using streams created by RipBot and meGUI.
As far as a conversion guide, should I start a new thread or just post one here?
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TheNorm - Your correct in that PocketDivxEncoder cannot convert directly from an encrypted DVD. You would require a separate tool to first 'rip' the DVD to your HD. (DVDFab HD Decrypter is the best by the way, www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/225/59/). Also if you happen to own DVDFab HD Decrypter Platinum, it will do DVD to Divx all in one step.
As far as your iPod tool, it is converting your DVDs to MP4 (AVC/H.264). Although CorePlayer can handle H.264 videos, the Elf/Elfin OMAP 850 can't quite decode videos in the format fast enough. If you disable the AVC deblocking filter in CorePlayer, you will get better performance at the loss of quality which may help the jerkiness.
Menu/Tools/Preferences/Advanced/Disable AVC deblocking filter
Also ensure you are using 'Raw FrameBuffer' under the Video settings. This is all assuming your using CorePlayer. AVC deblocking can not be disabled in TCPMP.
I mean whats the best combination between filesize and quality.
Thanks in advanced
Willem
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= Good question.. i need to know the answer too ..
it depends what you are using to play the vid. so far i find avc or h.264 with coreplayer to be the best
And which format do you use , if am right the screen resolution is 640x480 but is this not way to big for such a small screen?
Willem
Wilsas said:
And which format do you use , if am right the screen resolution is 640x480 but is this not way to big for such a small screen?
Willem
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I've never heard anyone complain about too much resolution before
I've had pretty good results with TCPMP using GDI (there's an option in there somewhere for this, much better than default). Of course you've got to get the version compiled on the .NET Framework here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387.
Personally I would think you'll get the best results from a file encoded for the Diamond's native resolution (640x480) so that no scaling needs to be done to the image.
Regarding the question of which codec or compression type will yield the best results, I'm not really sure. I've found Xvid or Divx to be of very high quality provided it was encoded to the same resolution as the source and the source quality was good. I guess it's really a toss up between quality/performance and file size.
I guess it's really a toss up between quality/performance and file size.
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Uhm you can have quality performance and a decent file size. DiVX looks perfect perfomance is perfect too and the size could be better (in my opinion the only thing what could be better).
Even a H.2xx encoded file always playes really nice (no shocking), you only have too worry about the 4gb limit :S
I don't know wich program i use to encode my vids, i'm @work right now.
PS 240*320 would be good to, scaling (everything x2 in this case) is much lighter then loading a 640*320 movie to the screen... But who cares if it seamlessy playing the full res (sorry for my englisch )
not to thread jack, but i'm looking for a codec pack that will allow me to play any video on the daimond touch
i don't know about codec packs, but TCMP and Core player come preloaded with most codecs and play video's much better than media player
TCMP is free so you might want to start there
I use Cucusoft Ultimate DVD + Video Converter Suite its absolutely awsome, it has a preset setting for pocket pc's and the conversion quality is excellent, the movies are easly as good as dvd standard and they can be played in wmp and HTC Album
Have a look at this xda-developers video encoding GUI.
Has any body tried to load a movie on there's yet?
I tried last night and because the file was like 5 gig it wouldn't let me copy to either the phone or the sd card.
Any body else got any input?
The filesystem is limited to 4gb files. I did try two videos, both 720p mkvs, worked flawlessly, if a little fuzzy. I am guessing its the rescaling effect.
Haven't tried 1080p as I don't see the point, but that's just me (1024x600 screen).
Gonna convert some vids to the native res and see how they look.
Yeah - Thats pretty much what I thought just wanted to double check. All my 720 films are over 4 gig
What about yours?
Have you converted and compressed them to make them smaller? If so which programme did you use?
Thanks in advance
720p TV programs are about 1.4GB. Samsung isn't limiting you, the FAT filesystem is limiting you.
Clowneh said:
720p TV programs are about 1.4GB. Samsung isn't limiting you, the FAT filesystem is limiting you.
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Oh yeah - silly me,
Still though its not ideal
I put a couple of tv shows on there (South Park, Walking Dead, Ugly Americans). Max size was like 2.2GB.
I am converting them now to 1024x600 (should be 1024x576, but I figured the ever so slight difference should be ok)
However, I am at work now so I'll have to wait for a bit before I can check.
What programme do you use?
Try MKV2VOB. IT will change the files to AVI if you wish and maintain quality (or compress) as you wish. It also has within settings the ability to break up the files so that they don't exceed 4gbs for FAT32 formatted drives.... (Like what the PS3 needs )
eskasi said:
Try MKV2VOB. IT will change the files to AVI if you wish and maintain quality (or compress) as you wish. It also has within settings the ability to break up the files so that they don't exceed 4gbs for FAT32 formatted drives.... (Like what the PS3 needs )
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Excellent. gonna give this a try when I get home.
I use mediacoder, works rather well for me, probably also has some setting to break the files up.
I got impatient, so I converted one file, South Park, from 720p mkv to 600p mp4, variable bitrate quality 50, came in at 61mb (lol) and yeah, sftp'd that sucker down, stuck it on and I have to say, looks good.
I am now gonna try something less easy (Walking Dead). It comes in to almost 600mb (from 2.2gb) so lets see how that looks. Will take a bit to d/l though.
Or I could just wait to get home.....but it's not like I have to watch the download take place.
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I use mediacoder, works rather well for me, probably also has some setting to break the files up.
I got impatient, so I converted one file, South Park, from 720p mkv to 600p mp4, variable bitrate quality 50, came in at 61mb (lol) and yeah, sftp'd that sucker down, stuck it on and I have to say, looks good.
I am now gonna try something less easy (Walking Dead). It comes in to almost 600mb (from 2.2gb) so lets see how that looks. Will take a bit to d/l though.
Or I could just wait to get home.....but it's not like I have to watch the download take place.
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Thanks for your help,
Im gonna do abit of downloading an covering later on to see what gets the best results. I think Samsung should have brought there own converter out specifically for the tab that would have been nice.
Wow south park looks good at 61 mb :O
I think you should upload it and send me a pm with a link so I can test
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Thanks for your help,
Im gonna do abit of downloading an covering later on to see what gets the best results. I think Samsung should have brought there own converter out specifically for the tab that would have been nice.
Wow south park looks good at 61 mb :O
I think you should upload it and send me a pm with a link so I can test
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Test away. (you got PM)
Thanks dude,
The video looks nice and sharp especially at 60mb..
Id say the only thing I noticed was the audio seems abit quiet.
mklass said:
Thanks dude,
The video looks nice and sharp especially at 60mb..
Id say the only thing I noticed was the audio seems abit quiet.
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Yeah, the original was ac3. It always is a bit soft to allow for dynamic range. I will make a note to bump up the gain for my future encodes.
Come on kids. The tab has a screen suited for 480p. Anything higher than 600 pixels will simply be bigger than the screen.
When you use the HDMI dock, however, it should play xvid @1080p on your tv.
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Come on kids. The tab has a screen suited for 480p. Anything higher than 600 pixels will simply be bigger than the screen.
When you use the HDMI dock, however, it should play xvid @1080p on your tv.
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480 <- 600 -> 720
Either will get scaled (up or down). Also cool how they are both the same distance from each other (120 lines).
Personally, I'd rather have MORE info and scale it down than less and scale it up.
Plus I also said that 1080p is massive overkill. 720p works nicely, though reformatted for 600p is smoother (less ghosting of movement to my eyes).
YMMV
so is AC3 working fine, I dont want to recode all the TV programmes. If it can play mkv 720p AC3 then Im happy. I know up until recently it couldnt do mult-channel audio, wether it be 720p or 1080p
yes, ac3 works fine for me.
there should be an easier solution to watch 720p movies. Is it not possible to simply split the movie in 2 parts? There should be some mkv-split program out there, that does not need to recode, just create new headers...
(so far I am watching tv shows, and those files are 1gb)
Mkvtoolnix will do it in seconds on windows.
I downloaded a 7120p and 1080p trailer and tested and it workd awesome, except for the aspect ration wasent the best. I run tvshows and it works like a charm