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Windows mobile 5 one step ahead and one step back?

HI
Yesterday i just got my universal, it was long waited and i was so excited that i could barely unpack it ;-)
now i have been playing with it for several hours, and i must say im quite happy, my version is the Qtek 9000 and i dont have the some of the issues that is mentioned here with other brands. mine is fast clearly faster than my old qtek 9090.
what i am a little disapoointed in is more the new windows mobile 5, well i do like the new added functions, and i really like the idea of the new gps api and camera api. i hope this will give is much more software that support thise functions.
there is just a few things i really dont understand why Microsoft has change fx:
- Why has messenger undergone such a downgrade? i liked to have my messenger automatically connect when i got onliine, its not pssoble anymore and alot of other setting are gone also.
- Microsft has change the way memory works by locking the slider, so you cand decide how much to use for program and stoage, fine with me but why on earth cant you place your documents folder on the storage card and have activesync 4 sync it there then????? im i missing something here?
- Activesync is now version 4, in 3.8 you could specify how long back in time you wanted emails to sync, i syncronized 6 month back, in windows mobile 5 you can only use predefined values and it only goes 1 month back what is the idea behind that? why does microsoft thinks they know better than me how long back i want to sync?
But let me say again i am quite happy with my universal, i just dont understand the above changes. i thaoght higher version meaned more options not less :-(

The 9000!??!?!?!??!?!?
Aaaargh!
I must wait until the 11'th of November!
And that's a Friday, so I'll probably have to wait until Monday or Tuesday!
Do you know what supplier your shop bought it from?

I bought i directly from Dangaard denmark, im a registered dealer..
in denmark it was scheduled for november 5. but moved fast when i it suddently was on stock the day before yesterday
you have something to look forward to, i love it
yes yes ok i guess im a nerd lol

You lucky b****rd!!
I've been waiting for AGES for this phone!
Dangaard has it for 11/11-05.. It's a shame..
Dangaard is Danish, right?

Can't help you with your other questions, but I think I know the answer to this one:
abp said:
- Microsft has change the way memory works by locking the slider, so you cand decide how much to use for program and stoage, fine with me but why on earth cant you place your documents folder on the storage card and have activesync 4 sync it there then????? im i missing something here?
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The hardware in the Exec is different to any of its earlier relatives. Now we have persistant (i.e. permanent) storage which behaves like a rewritable ROM, plus a 'Programs' memory which is RAM. Your installed programs, files, and documents are stored in the persistant storage and will not be lost even if the battery is completely flat! This is a big step forward from previous models, in which everything was stored in power-dependent RAM.
In the old days you could move the slider to choose between allocation of RAM to storage or running programs because it was all one storage location in hardware. With the Universal we have two physical types of storage so you can't change how it is used.
I agree with the title of your post: One step forward and one back. WM5 is .... different. Not necessarily better from a simple usability point of view. They give us two soft buttons at the bottom of the screen to perform common tasks (which is good ) but this removes a huge chunk of usable screen area (which is bad ). IMHO the benefits of WM5 will only be seen over time.

I agree that it is a huge advantage that we now have persistant storage, but it is really a problem that you cant move the activesync document folder to the storage card, there is not much memory in the internal storage ram in the new version to save data, so if you have fx. a excel document you like to have sync and use on both desktop and pocket pc then you would need to manually copy between SD card and internal memory. To me it really seems like a half finnished and not thought thoug solution they have made here

another thing i noticed about wm 5 and active sync is that you canot change the default folder (in outlook) for syncronising contacts. i tried the tools/options... menu that should give me many settings to do but no good.
and how about sheduling? do you get any settings for that? i dont.
maybe i do something wrong but with the s100 everything was a litle bit more easy.

Microsoft Voice Command

Where should I install it?
Storage card or memory.
I tried it on the storage card, and it gave me an error everytime I reset the unit.

modem_man said:
Where should I install it?
Storage card or memory.
I tried it on the storage card, and it gave me an error everytime I reset the unit.
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I thought it was giving problems with WM5 or the exec? I'm holding off for now.... on my last device though, I had to install it to the memory, but was able to install it to the small internal storage memory on the jam, and avoided cluttering up the main memory.

I didn't know that Voice command does not work with WM 5.
Hmmm....maybe that would explain the problems.
Anybody else want to chip in?

VC works fine, especially with the BT reg hack.
The only pain is that it does not work when the unit is closed with the screen face down.

Yup, works great for me with the registry hack but it is a small bummer that the "show (contact name)" will only display a white screen. Overall very happy that all my calls can be made via bluetooth and with the caller ID on my Sony BT I don't have to touch the phone at all!
Regards,
Gordo

Is it worth the high price for it ?
I only had a trial UK version and although it worked ok with the SPV M1000 I'm not sure about it on the Exec. And Microsoft doesn't just give them away free....

I installed Microsoft Voice Command on my jas-jar and my views are well mixed.
The speaker independent voice recognition amazes you most of the time yet it manages to annoy you too. For "good" words in english that are not difficult to pronounce it does good and if you have your contacts stored as initials such as JD for Junaid it works wonders with 100% accuracy. And its really good for opening applications like "Start Internet Explorer". Also I had no problems installing it on WM5. However most of my contacts have names that do not spell very well in English and hence I uninstalled it however it is worth the price in my opinion very good recognition.

It's working well on my jasjar. I think it's worth the price especially if you have a lot of contacts. It can be tedious if you have to associate a lot of voice tags for contacts with the included voice software.

For those of you who have VC working well on the Universal, where did you all install the program to?
The SD card or internal memory?

isythica said:
However most of my contacts have names that do not spell very well in English and hence I uninstalled it however it is worth the price in my opinion very good recognition.
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I don't think we can blame the software for not being able to handle names like Siobhan and Caolin.

MSVC on jasjar
I have it working, and working well. Install to device to try and avoid the time lag on startup from device and storage.
There is a file that can be installed from the ozvga package that if placed into the windows folder will allow the contacts details to be shown, their is a detailed forum on how to do this.
outres.96.dll I think is the name of the file you will need.
Overall, I am very very happy with, and much better than processing voice tags.

Re: MSVC on jasjar
simon_darley said:
I have it working, and working well. Install to device to try and avoid the time lag on startup from device and storage.
There is a file that can be installed from the ozvga package that if placed into the windows folder will allow the contacts details to be shown, their is a detailed forum on how to do this.
outres.96.dll I think is the name of the file you will need.
Overall, I am very very happy with, and much better than processing voice tags.
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It's a bit big to install to main memory?

I kepp all system apps that iuse daily in storage and useful occasional apps to sd card.
anything that needs to be available at boot up should be on device, eg today plug ins like spb and omega one (both of which I have all, both of which I removed due to seious slow downs)
so the only one I now keep on my device are resco explorer and plugins, voice command, and m$ eread4er (reqd to activate)
in have over 20 meg still avilable, and a 1 gig storage cqrd 75% full.
also, word, excel notes and camera all save to storage, so I don't even have much of a need for the existing extra except for emails and web pages and temps.
without spb and omegaone, my device runs really fast, particularly if you keep but upps on device, don't display memory readers or battery readers.
it boots up with msvc, 5meg pim and resco plugin as 30meg.
I did overload the plugins and features and they all slowed it down. so managing and understanding what is necessary at bootup and what can slow it down, and changing all non vital storage to sd card means that everything is really fast, efficient and stable.

I've had no luck with the outres.96.dll file and I've copied it into the \Windows folder. MS Voice Command does find the contact but the contact details are not shown. (It'd be even better if MSVC displayed Pocket Informant contacts !!)
Has anybody had any luck getting contacts to display without using one of the VGA hacks ?
Peter

belfast-biker said:
isythica said:
However most of my contacts have names that do not spell very well in English and hence I uninstalled it however it is worth the price in my opinion very good recognition.
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I don't think we can blame the software for not being able to handle names like Siobhan and Caolin.
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Here's a tip for you guys ... Voice command uses both contact name and nickname, so add a NICKNAME field to your contact and spell the name how you would pronounce it. For example, I have a friend named "Hwa Chang", but it's actually pronounced more like "Hua Chung"

To my experience....
No point wasting money on this since there are to many word variations in the english dictionary....I found "dial" number to be absolutlly useless.... find myself talking like a robot.... after a while you might feel like throwing your handheld against the wall...half the time i cant understand what that robotic merlin voice is on about and at times talks to fast....
This is only my opinion since everyone is entitled to one and a few people here have said to be happy with it and at the end of the day it has a trial period so you can only try it and see for yourselfe.
BR

christan said:
Here's a tip for you guys ... Voice command uses both contact name and nickname, so add a NICKNAME field to your contact and spell the name how you would pronounce it. For example, I have a friend named "Hwa Chang", but it's actually pronounced more like "Hua Chung"
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SUPERB tip.

I use the 'CALL HOME' style which seems to work fine but I'd say the computer voice is more like chinese lady than merlin & robotic.

http://www.burling.co.nz/Default.aspx?tabid=151
Software to perform VC reg hack.
V

PeterMcClure said:
I've had no luck with the outres.96.dll file and I've copied it into the \Windows folder. MS Voice Command does find the contact but the contact details are not shown. (It'd be even better if MSVC displayed Pocket Informant contacts !!)
Has anybody had any luck getting contacts to display without using one of the VGA hacks ?
Peter
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Ihad no luck with displaying the contacts, and when I tried to install the vga stuff it stopped my XDA from restarting properly had to do a hard-reset.
One thing to note is that the .dll needs to be registered and if you have the pin number option when starting it hides the prompt asking for you to allow the .dll
If you turn off the pin number option you can accept the .dll - though it did not work for me it may for you! You can always turn the pin back on afterwards.
Steve

Windows Mobile 5 and Magician - Why

Since this has always been a "hot topic" on this forum, I have a simple question for all you Magician users.
What are the top 3 reasons you want it / don't want it for Magician.
Here's mine to start you off:
1. I don't want to be left behind
2. New Mobile 5 looks better
3. I want to be able to use charts in Pocket Excel
Let's avoid the WM5 upgrade saga again. We know we won't get an upgrade for Magician. Well, not until May at any rate. (!)

OK - Here's my why not:
1. WM2003SE is stable
2. It already does what I want
3. I can wait till I'm due for an upgrade from my network.

No WM5,
1. 2003 is stable
2. the screen is too small for specials
3. I can wait for a new provider offer (WM5 should be stable by then)

Why not WM5:
1. It's a lot slower, especially at starting programs
2. Not all software is yet WM5 compatible.
3. You have to buy the latest versions of many of your software to have it WM5 compatible. Most updates are not for free.
4. The Magician just doesn't have enough ROM to run WM5 properly

I can't think of any compelling reasons to switch to WM5 that are of a positive significance (btw, I can't count to 3):
-CF 2 works on both.
-Security signing is a pain in the bottom.
-It's slower.
-Ok it has some useful networking functions, but it loses wifi Activesyncing. WTF? Not to mention ActiveSync.
-WM5 interface, perhaps the most potentially useful idea with the softkeys, but inconsistent execution. And I have some ideas about bringing some of the benefits to Wm2003.
-I have the Magician and the Universal. I was just telling my better half about the Universal users' experience with dropping phone calls being able to answer. It's a beautiful device, but once again, what were they on?
Ok, too many others, I'm starting to http://www.ladyofthecake.com/mel/space/images/alien.jpg]sweat and convulse[/url]. Better stop for now.
V

With a device like the Magician where the size is more phone-ish than pda-ish, I'd be inclined to say that most people use it primarily is a mobile phone with the additional functionality of a PDA, MP3 player, etc.
I upgraded to the HTC Prophet just because I want to have the latest. But now that I had it for over 2 to 3 weeks I can say that I would never switch back to WM2003. Single-handed operation with WM5 is very easy, intuitive and practical to say the least.
And when the battery is really low, like less than 30%, I feel safer listenening to the last few MP3s, knowing that I will not lose anything when the battery goes flat.
With regards to performance, I find it suprising how people find loading prorams on Wm5 noticeably slower than WM2003. I was using my old magician yesterday and the performance is just about the same. Th onlt thing I found slower on WM5 is changing the SIP.
Plus, WM5 can do without 3rd party programs like Caller Id, Photo Contacts, etc. cause they are all integrated with the OS. For example, there were times when a picture that I assign to a contact won't show up during a call with the Magician. This never happened to me since I started using WM5. And since contact pictures are synchronised with Outlook I don't need to re-assign them again after a hard-reset.
Finally regarding stability, yes there is software that is not compatible with WM5 yet, but most of the best software is already compatible. I'm using the following software and never had to reset my PPC:
SPB Diary
Resco File Exporer 5
psShutXp
Hitchhiker
MDict
TKCreator
MS Voice Command
and a couple of games
Personally, I think it's quite a stable platform. The only thing that annoys me is that sometimes Wm5 (or the Prophet) loses the storage card after being on standby, and the media stored on it is not always immediately available. You'd have to wait those 3 sec sometimes. But this will hopefully be fixed in the next ROM update. If not, I'm still happy with the overall package
Just my 2cents!

Meh.
Hokay. Regarding WM5... I have never come across an OS that actually requires a file that YOU OWN signed by an EXTERNAL AUTHORITY instead of yourself, and that purposefully ignoring this warning to install said files doesn't necessarily mean it won't be blocked when you try to run it (goodbye backward compat). I thought this technology was strictly for web only.
Stick to WM2003, at least it has the decency to trust its own owner. -.-'

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Ultimate Chicken said:
Hokay. Regarding WM5... I have never come across an OS that actually requires a file that YOU OWN signed by an EXTERNAL AUTHORITY instead of yourself, and that purposefully ignoring this warning to install said files doesn't necessarily mean it won't be blocked when you try to run it (goodbye backward compat). I thought this technology was strictly for web only. '
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I dont understand - what situation is this coming up?

Well, I have some games on my O2 Xda mini. I tried transferring them to my sister's new Atom.
Message I got from installing was the generic 'this program is not signed by a trusted source'. I ignored it and installed anyway.
But when I tried to run it, guess what? 'Program cannot be run because it is either not signed with a trusted certificate or some files are missing. Please reinstall...'. This was from an installer works perfectly on my Mini.
Did some research, Win Mobile 5.0 will also generate this error when you attempt to execute something with a DOS parameter at the back. It also blocks stuff that do not require installation; Scummvm 8.0 was halted with the same error message. I know the latest Windows OS's have File Execution Prevention but it was never as anal and obnoxious as to go 'I do not want to let it run. So there. Nyah.'

Seeking the Caller ID (Photo Contacts)
kta said:
Plus, WM5 can do without 3rd party programs like Caller Id, Photo Contacts, etc. cause they are all integrated with the OS. For example, there were times when a picture that I assign to a contact won't show up during a call with the Magician.
Just my 2cents!
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When I was using the I-Mate Jam (Magician) I really liked the "Photo Contacts" program they had, which was actually "Caller ID 1.6" allegedly from IA Styles of late. But it cannot seem to be found anywhere. I have looked from freeware sites to pirate sites and cannot find it. I downloaded and used "Photo Contacts 4.1" for a pretty penny, but it did not allow for animated .gif contact images. I REALLY liked that. Does anyone know where this program can be found? Can any of you remove and distribute it from your phone or from a ROM?

papakeithjenkins said:
When I was using the I-Mate Jam (Magician) I really liked the "Photo Contacts" program they had, which was actually "Caller ID 1.6" allegedly from IA Styles of late. But it cannot seem to be found anywhere. I have looked from freeware sites to pirate sites and cannot find it. I downloaded and used "Photo Contacts 4.1" for a pretty penny, but it did not allow for animated .gif contact images. I REALLY liked that. Does anyone know where this program can be found? Can any of you remove and distribute it from your phone or from a ROM?
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Why don't you download it from the xdadevs FTP server? There are the ExtRoms for Magician with the cab files.
But be careful, you seem to run a WM5 device, it might not run (and force you to hard reset)

Actually WM6
In reality I have upgraded my system to WM6 Pro now and I will let you all know how loading this cab on my Hermes does with WM6. I loved this program when it was running on my Magician (which I gave away to my friend/biz partner) and have tried Photo Contacts Pro 4.yada.yada, and was not happy with THAT. Even got a refund.
Thanks a bunch Dude

Only took a minute
I found it right where you said I would and downloaded it and installed it and soft reset and . . . when I tried to asign a photo it got a headache and gave me a message about being unable to use the program for somereason.
I unistalled it from the system and did another soft reset and while I don't have menu access to assign photos, I can open the edit screen on a contact and assign a photo there.
Maybe I should reload the program again and try accessing it from the Edit screen too? We shall see.
Otherwise, I think I shall attempt installing it on my wife's Blue Angel.

littld said:
We know we won't get an upgrade for Magician. Well, not until May at any rate. (!)
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what makes you think we will get an upgrade then ???
sorry n00b magician owner here only had it for a week
any tips?

Greatest 'Photo Contacts' ever
I installed the photo contacts on my wifes Blue Angel - WM2003 - and it was excellent - I only wish someone could make the same program work on my Hermes with WM6. It has the unique ability to use animated .gif images and I LOVE THAT!!!
If anyone could pull this one off I would be overjoyed. I have attached the version with which I am familiar. And if you can't make it work for WM6 - or WM5 - it already works on WM2003 really well. I have loaded it on a couple of Wallabies, a Magician with a new ROM and a Blue Angel - all with great joy in its application.
TIA,

littld said:
Let's avoid the WM5 upgrade saga again. We know we won't get an upgrade for Magician. Well, not until May at any rate. (!)
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what's happening in may!!!!!
why dont we have it yet?

PharaohSam said:
what's happening in may!!!!!
why dont we have it yet?
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As we can clearly see and hear from this video, there will be rain in may!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKKCmNVISwQ
"Rain in May, wipes your worries away"...

Sktools v3.00(beta)

hi guys,
if anybody owns or is interested in sktools software, then version 3.00(beta) is available for download
http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/skt.zip[/url]

I get a corrupted file message
u downloaded from that url ok?

Re: major improvements
markyhedgehog73 said:
hi guys,
if anybody owns or is interested in sktools software, then version 3.00(beta) is available for download
http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/skt.zip[/url]
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Cool much nicer interface and works faster/better

What about new features, adds?

Dweller said:
What about new features, adds?
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Aside a much better GUI and user interface, the definite highlight is the Backup Facility.
I was Beta Tester.
Had Sprite, Spb BU and Sunnysoft BU purchased before.
SKTools beats all 3 of them by miles !
It is specially capable to also backup the PIM data and, very important for me at least, handles the Backup of the Ext ROM (which I use for storing programs) without flaws. The other 3 are just not able to cope with that in a reasonable fashion.
Well worth the money !
Cheers
hrb

hrb said:
Dweller said:
What about new features, adds?
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Aside a much better GUI and user interface, the definite highlight is the Backup Facility.
I was Beta Tester.
Had Sprite, Spb BU and Sunnysoft BU purchased before.
SKTools beats all 3 of them by miles !
It is specially capable to also backup the PIM data and, very important for me at least, handles the Backup of the Ext ROM (which I use for storing programs) without flaws. The other 3 are just not able to cope with that in a reasonable fashion.
Well worth the money !
Cheers
hrb
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Its strange - I have both sprite and sk and never used the sk backup utility. I was always very happy with sprite as it has saved my ass several times. I will have to check out the sk backup utility.

Getting v3
Is no one else have a prob getting it from their website?

Re: major improvements
markyhedgehog73 said:
hi guys,
if anybody owns or is interested in sktools software, then version 3.00(beta) is available for download
http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/skt.zip[/url]
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Thanks markyhedgehog - i am a big fan of sktools. You should change your subject title though to something like 'sktools update v3 beta available' as major improvements could mean anything :wink:
cabfeegig try this link http://s-k-tools.com/sktools/skt.zip

Thanks Mark - still doens't work
I get compressed file is corrupted. I've seen it before but don't remember the situation. I think it is XP SP2 problem...

Re: Thanks Mark - still doens't work
cabfeegig said:
I get compressed file is corrupted. I've seen it before but don't remember the situation. I think it is XP SP2 problem...
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I will post the cab then

mucho thanks mate..
I appreciate it!

429K
Is that the correct file size?

Re: 429K
cabfeegig said:
Is that the correct file size?
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Yes its much smaller than the zip because that included the installer. When installed it uses nearly 1.2mb memory on your card

thanks again
I understand...

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cabfeegig said:
I understand...
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No problem - glad to help.
Wow this new version rocks - well done Sk software!

Wow, very nice indeed. SK has always been a "must have" if only for the uninstall utility alone.
Great new interface and love the benchmarking tools. Good to see my 247mhz KJAM out peform some "lesser" devices!

Does anybody know how to make it possible to view all the installed progs in Installed programs item? I see only a few of them.

Dweller said:
Does anybody know how to make it possible to view all the installed progs in Installed programs item? I see only a few of them.
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this is trial limitation

News and updates:
- User interface improved
- Help file rewritten
New utilities added:
- "Clean!" (all clean-up utilities combined in a single window; highly customizable)
- "SIM Contacts" (view and manage contacts stored on SIM)
- "SIM SMS" (view and manage text messages stored on SIM)
- "Benchmark" (estimate CPU and file system performance, compare to other device models)
- FreeUP RAM utility now has its own dialog, allowing user to select one of the following ways to free RAM: close all programs; send WM_HIBERNATE message; Compact Heaps (WM5 only); simulate low memory condition
- Compact call history (remove repeated records)
- Shortcut Wizard (easily create shortcuts to SKTools' features)
Significant improvements to former utilities:
Notifications Queue
- "Bad" items filter (you can teach SKTools what to treat as “bad”)
- Detected items are passed to "Clean!" and "Auto mode"
Temporary and Junk files
- Find and delete zero-sized files
Files
- New profile added; few changes
Move DLLs
- New search method
Advanced clean
-"Purge call history" now works on WM5. (Don’t forget to turn it on in Settings)
- New utility – "Compact call history" – gives an alternative way of cleaning call history by deleting only repeated records (Don’t forget to turn it on in Settings)
Databases
- Shows EDB bases from PIM.vol; you can delete and clean these bases, but not import/export.
Tune UP!
- Now 70+ tweaks!
Optimize!
- New optimization option for WM5 – make ActiveSync log read-only)
Statistics
- Statistics are kept between sessions
Storage Cards
- Count "slack information" for storage cards
Processes
- Compact Heaps
SKTools Backup
- Full backup on WM5 enabled
- e-mail and PIM data can be restored from full backup on WM5
- Advanced scheduler
Auto mode
- Advanced scheduler
Much more.

Sounds good SK. When is the release date?

Slow Changing of Input Method?

Guys, I have a question.
I used to have an iPaq 6300 running WiMo 2003, when selecting input methods there is an arrow beside the input method you click on to bring up the menu that lets you choose between Keyboard, Block Recognizer, Transcriber or Letter Recognizer. This was instantaneous! The moment you press the arrow, the menu pops up and you can switch input methods instantly.
On my new Atom Exec though this is not the case. You have to press the input method icon first, which brings up the arrow, then click on the arrow, then wait like a minute before the menu pops up. What gives? Is this really how all WiMo5 devices work? Is this a problem with WiMo5 or with the Atom Exec in particular?
It is annoying because it makes it harder to switch between input methods. Could someone tell me the score on this?
Thanks,

My bad, I fiddled around with the Atom a bit more and fixed the problem by doing a Hard Reset. Now I set the PPC back up to how I like it and it's working flawlessly.

Hmm after some time the problem seems to be back. It looks like the phone bogs down with stuff after a while, causing this problem. I don't feel like reformatting, does anyone have a fix, or a program that cleans up and optimizes your PPC?

this is an issue of WM5.

It also happens to WM6. The more applications you installed, the slower it will get (not sure what kind of application though). Well, Atom Life has 1GB of ROM. Of course people will start installing a lot of applications.
Anyway, I read somewhere in the forum stating that if you have more than 10 today plugin installed, the SIP will take a some time to appear. The plugins don't necessary be active. I mean, the ones not active are also counted. I have not confirmed this yet though.

I have more than 40 programs installed in my atom. It didn't slow down that much (only 5 to 10%) but what I usually do is to backup everything first before I install anything. At the first sign of speed reduction or bugs, I just do a restore. I have more than 15 today plug-ins both active and inactive. However, one thing I noticed is that it is better if you install your non-essentials to your sd card. It doesn't matter if you do a hard reset, they will still be there and if you use a tray launcher or clauncher, you can configure the icons to reappear even if you do not re-install them. This way, you reduce the clutter in your main memory and at the same time save you the trouble of re-installing. The reconfiguration of the executable icon will take some time but it is still faster than re-installing 30+ programs. It is important though to maintain a storage of no less than 17MB. Once you go below this, you will really see the reduction in speed and will be pissed off with your PPC. By the way, do not use Opera or any modified IE (tab browsing and downloading. by the way, Opera is good with downloading but sucks in handling your PPC's memory) while doing something else with your PPC. It will really really slow down your PPC.

i posted this same thread sometime ago, but there was no solution. At last i discover the culprit. I see the difference in speed when i install Embedded Windows VB Runtimes. regardless whether i install it in the memory card or the main memory.

Got this info from another site, it really works.
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make WM5 SIP faster (加快輸入法) (not a joke)
X51V ENG A12 + Ce-Star 2.8R2A + Monster SIP + MS IME for JAP works well.
But I am not very sure "every WM5 PPC" works well, too.
After installing a lot of softwares, WM5 SIP becomes slow.
You can make it fast again.
1. install resco explorer 5.42 and resco registry at \Device
2. use resco registry to export the registry of
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID
to a file (like CLSID.reg) at PPC, or SD, or CF
donnot edit or modify CLSID.reg
3. use resco registry to delete CLSID
4. use resco explorer to execute CLSID.reg to import the registry CLSID back
5. turn off PPC, soft reset
It is amazing like magic.
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Weird... it really works. Everything back to normal. Menu is displayed instantly after tapping on the list button.
I'm using Atom Life WM6, so this mean that it also works for WM6.

Urk Double Post

Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
I have no perceptible slowdown on the Exec other than the input method switching. I just need to fix that!
My main memory is about 85% free (83.6MB) and yes I do install all the non-essentials to the SD card.
MightyOx I'll try your method hopefully this fixes this issue. While "upgrading" to WM5 I thought it would be a completely better experience, but I'm finding WM5 has issues and that quite a few things were done better in WM2K3 (like the SIP switching speed) or how about creating a new SMS message in WM2K3 you only needed 2 taps here in WM5 you need 3. *roll eyes* sometimes I wonder what developers are thinking when they take steps backwards like this.
On the other hand I love being able to rotate the screen, and Voice Command 1.6 was totally worth it.

Mochan said:
Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
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It's not O2's software. It just happen to be the next software you've installed before the problem show itself. It can be any software. As I said in my previous post, it will happen after you've installed a certain number of software. I think it is WM5 and WM6 related.
Anyway, the workaround is already posted. So, I have no more complain about this problem.

Yeah, looks like it's not. I tried Mightyox's method, THANK YOU SIR my Atom is running fine again. It's like once you pile over some registry entries over the CLSID directory, it takes time to get it. So the solution is to delete the registry key and "re-enter" it so it goes back on top. Very strange but if it works then more power.

Tried it on my flame...Wow...works like a charm