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Problems-Bluetooth On MDA II -> Laptop..To Access Interne

I have tried using the T-Mobile tool for suggestions to use my MDA II as a BT modem to browse the net on my laptop using GPRS:
http://us.t-mobile.mywds.com/
T-Mo will not help ("we do not support MDA II in US").
I am using the the Ambicom BT SD/CF PC Card Adapter for my laptop:
http://www.ambicom.com/products/air2net/bt2000cf.html
I have been unsuccessful getting my laptop to take advantage of the Bluetooth connection.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
My ultimate goal is to be able to view web pages full screen on the laptop and access company VPN (we can't access the VPN on the PDA).
Ambicom techies are clueless but I am guessing we have some regulars here who really know what they are doing!!!
The connection works flawlessly on my Nokia 6310i so it must work, just need the proper settings.
Thanks in advance.

Use the build in radio modem. Start Bluetooth (visible mode), search for the device and create a connection. Following services are offered:
SSA auf Pocket PC (Dialup Networking)
OBEX Object Push
For using the modem, launch the radio modem, select Bluetooth as connection type and press the start button.
Start the connection from your laptop.
Regards
Dr. Blauzahn[/quote]

Using Jam as Blutooth GPRS modem for laptop with Vodafone UK

I'm trying to get a net connection for my laptop over bluetooth through my Jam.
I'm on Vodafone UK & they provide software called "Connect Me" for the laptop but, of course, the list of supported phones during setup doesn't include the Jam or any PPC Phone device.
Does anyone know how else I can go about this?
Cheers,
M1

Hey. It shouldn't be too difficult. The only thing you need is to start the modem application on your Magician and (provided that you have a working GPRS connection for your provider already configured) enter the exact (!) name of this connection (on my Magician it's the GPRS connection under "ISP" - use the name of this GPRS connection, not ISP!) in Options->Use preset GPRS APN and also check the box. Then you have to go to the settings on your PC, check in your Bluetooth manager the available services and click the modem service (SSA or something). There you have to enter your name and password of the provider and as phone number (at least for german providers) *99#. In the last step, you might have to check the TCP/IP settings and set them the way your provider needs them to be. Hope it helps.

Thanks Dandie - I'll give it a go....

Nope - sorry - I'm totally baffled.
My GPRS connection on the phone is fine in normal use and is names "voda gprs".
By "the modem application" I assume you mean "Wireless Modem".
In the tools/option menu I have "Preset GPRS Connections" checked and the APN box completed as "voda gprs"
The connection type is set to bluetooth.
Whjen I press the "Start" button not a lot happens. It doesn't connect to my GPRS service.
However, if I connect to my GPRS service manually by clicking the connection icon in the bar at the top and clicking "connect GPRS" the "Connection" box in WModem turns yellow - which I assume is a good thing.
I have bluetooth turned on on my jam and my laptop (sony vaio) and the devices are already paired.
However - the laptop BT manager (Bluespace NE) only shows the following services available on my Jam: File Push/Serial/vCard & Dial up Networking.
No modem service. Clicking dial up networking gives me Dial-up networking Com 8 & Serial Port Com 10 options which I have enabled. But clicking dial up networking just pops up the options box again and doesnt seem to connect.
Launching browser on laptop having done all this = still no connection.
Jeez - I'm not new to this and have had this laptop connected to numerous mobile phones for internet access but this is driving me nuts.
I just want to make a BT link launch my browser and go but it ain't happening ;(

You're on the way. Don't give up. It's not anywhere as easy as it is with a normal mobile phone and a special application. This is the fault of MS if you ask me.
Anyway. You shouldn't connect to your GPRS connection when you use the modem. Otherwise it won't work. So disconnect on the PPC, start the modem application and select bluetooth (the APN setting is alright already). Klick on start. Now you have to initiate the connection from the PC. Connect to the dial up profile of your PPC. Then should a normal DUN dialog be displayed, allowing you to enter the password, number etc. These informations are given by your provider. The bluetooth modem might have to be configured separately in device manager of the system. (you don't need AT strings when you use the APN setting on your PPC)

I give up.
Followed these instructions to the letter - also followed MS support sheets & nothing.
Just end up with helpful error message - error 777 the modem on the remote computer is out of order.
My God - this should be soooo simple. It's a basic requirement. But I am going to have to revert to my trusty cellphone for mobile internet from laptop.
Even if I could get it to work I don't want to have to launch the Wmodem app on the Jam every time I need to connect. This is screwed up.
Grrrrarg.
Thanks for the advice anyway.

Hi,
It is a requirement to start the Wireless modem app on the Magician [if you want to use it as a modem] and set it to Bluetooth.
On the PC, go to control panel > phone and modem options and select the properties of the modem installed for the Magician - I am on XP SP2 and it is installed as a 'Standard modem over bluetooth link'.
On the advanced tab, enter +CGDCONT=1,"IP","Internet" and then set the Dial-up number in you network connection to *99# - that is it.
I am on T-Mobile [UK] and it works fine

@pcd
When you enter the AT string, you have to leave the option "Use preset GPRS connection" in the settings of the Modem app on the Magician cleared. For me, both ways worked, either by naming the (working) GPRS connection in the settings or by entering the AT string. I prefer the first solution. You can't combine them! (at least it always failed when I tried)
@MarkOne
You're damn right! It really is too complicated and could have been made much more comfortable. But once you get it to work, it's quite flexible too, since you can connect via cable, infrared and bluetooth.

@pcd
When you enter the AT string, you have to leave the option "Use preset GPRS connection" in the settings of the Modem app on the Magician cleared. For me, both ways worked, either by naming the (working) GPRS connection in the settings or by entering the AT string. I prefer the first solution. You can't combine them! (at least it always failed when I tried)
@MarkOne
You're damn right! It really is too complicated and could have been made much more comfortable. But once you get it to work, it's quite flexible too, since you can connect via cable, infrared and bluetooth.

OMG, I got it to work, and I'm using the internet connection now on my laptop. I've had the SX-56, the MDAIII, and now the MDA Compact. I must say that I like the compact the best as it is the most practical. I have T-Mobile in the USA, and the initialization string for the bluetooth modem on my laptop is:
+CGDCONT=1,"IP","Internet3.voicestream.com"
My APN here for T-Mobile is internet3.voicestream.com. I think it's different for people who use WAP though.
Thanks guys. Now I can sign on by bluetooth, USB, and serial.

Afraid I gave up on this a long time. Nothing I tried worked and life's too short to spend several days trying to get my "phone" to work as a gsm modem.
The anansky rom upgrade, by comparison, took just under an hour (mainly as it was my first outing with a hex editor).

Mark One, I totally agree with you. I've tried everything and I can't get the bloody thing to work.... I had no problem last time with the Widcomm stack on XP but now that I've upgraded to SP2, the bloody MS Stack is driving me nuts.... Tried all the instructions here and it still won't work. It's pissing me off!

There is the option within Wmodem to use bluetooth, i have only used it over usb atm tho
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34570
Imp

Yeah, I guess on the PC you need the Widcomm Stack, or at least any other than Microsoft
You can find many hints in the web how to make the Widcomm stack runs under SP2.

i ve got nearly same problem but i did all the same and cant connect
ive got internal BT (toshiba), i create SSA connection (automaticaly at port com 40) , entered extra dial string command (it is 100% correct), turn on Wireless modem program at my HTC, choose bluetooth and tap start.
Maximum that i reached was that connection led turned yellow. Other 2 are black.
i tried to make direct port connection at ports from 1-10 and to install modem manually. But i could choose only standart modem cause usb modem driver dont fit.
So ... dont know what to do

Ive got the same problem at the minute, however when i browse what services are availible on my magician in "My Bluetooth Places", dial up networking isnt one of them!
Also i havent got any form of bluetooth modem installed on my pc anywhere (i.e the phone) ive tried enabling wmodem and then searching for it but i get nowhere fast
Please help i need to get this working!

Ive just been in touch with Imate (who are BRILLIANT by the way)
and i have solved my problem! here is the pdf they sent me which i followed and it worked fine!

argh .. didnt help. I have another BT browser and it is not same as u have . And it creates not bluetooth modem but only a standart 33000 kbs modem
so , i need a driver for BT modem on Jam

When your Stack on the PC supports SSA, you can install a Bluetooth modem yourself. Just go to Hardware, select "device connected", then chosse "select yourself", then "Add new hardware", then select Modem then "select Modem yourself", search for Widcomm (maybe other Stacks work aswell), select Modem and then your outgoing com port! Then you should have the Modem available.
I think the radio version 1.12 didn't work for me either. Try installing the radio 1.13 (which I would recommend anyway) and maybe also the latest ROM version (I successfully use version 1.12).
You need some patience with that crap but it works.

Chaosmage, which bt software you using?
been using mine as a modem since february.
my way is similar to one above, except that I DO NOT turn the wireless modem on.
using the XP SP2 built in stack with an MSI 6967 dongle.
in bt services in control panel, pair the devices.
on device tab, highlight the device and click properties
go to the services tab and tick the DUN service.
click ok and wait for the new hardware bubbles by the clock to disappear
In phone and modem options in the control panel, click the modems tab
open the properties for the standard modem over bluetooth link
on the advanced tab, enter at+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet" in the extra initialization field
click ok and then go to network connections
create a new connection that dials *99# using the standard modem over bluetooth link - vodafone would tell you to use a login and password of web, but that's not really needed as they don't use authentication (none of the uk networks do)
This i know works, cos it's how i do it, and also how i used to set them uo when i worked at vodafone in newbury.
Any q's, feel pree to PM!

Bluetooth / GPRS / Laptop / MDAII

And another question about bluetooth modem/gprs/laptop...
Even though I've read all (I guess) questions and answers here.
I want to browse over the internet using my MDAII as a bluetooth modem.
- My provider is T-mobile in the Netherlands
- MDA bluetooth is in discoverable mode
- On my Windows XP pro laptop I have paired my MDA
- I've got a bluetooth modem configured in Control panel with the string AT+CDGCONT=1,"IP","internet",0,0
- Number to dial is *99#
When I doubleclick the DUN I get a messagebox which tells me to pick up the handset, dail *99# and click OK. When I do that nothing happens and the connection is disconnected.
I tried to give in the phonenumber in a terminal window (ATD*99#), then I see CONNECT and the usual garbage, but when I close the window it is still disconnected.
A "query modem" in the modem configuration is succesfull. My laptop is able to communicate with the modem, but that is all.
What do I do wrong?
I've tried using an USB modem, but that gives the same result.

if you are using pocketplus or another program which close applications insted of minimizing them when you press the X
then i guess closing the connection windows would close the connection

Thanks for your reply.
I'm just using Wmodem on my MDA and a DUN connection on the laptop. Everything as simple as possible. The terminal window is an option from the DUN connection.

Wirless modem dont works

Hi
I have problem with trion and wirless modem...
i open in programs->wirless modem---
select USB port and do start.
Connect the trion on usb
but not append... The PC dont see any modem or new found new hardware wizard dont appear...
so in modem i dont have the tynt or trion...
what can i do?
thx

SAme here. It's a known issue

Im thinking to try:
Mobile stream USB Modem for PPC.
Somebody have test it?

IM getting the same thing now. If this is a known issue, and this was like 3 months ago is there any more news on this? Its becoming a right old pain in the backside for me right now!

I have two hermes, both with the same problem. I connect using dial up (bluetooth) but 300 kbps instead of 800

I can connect just fine over IrDA when using GPRS. I don't have bluetooth on my laptop, but I guess the transfer rate over bluetooth is to slow for a fullspeed connection. I can't test that either: I have the low-budget option Pocket Internet Total from T-mobile which is downgraded to 64kbps over UMTS.
For using fullspeed UMTS (3G) even HSDPA, I would recommend using the USB connection.
Two things that can make trouble:
a) I found was that when using the USB cable, I had to disable the automatic connection some programs try to make (such as direct push)
b) I used COM8 for my bluetooth gps: after setting the gps to com0, I could connect without any problem
I read in some thread that you had to disable the advance network features over USB but as far as I can tell that only limits the speed over usb (my guess: USB 1.0 (1.1) in stead of 2.0)

I have a tytn and it works great, I get 3g speeds between 900 and 1300.
1) Plug the usb cable into your pc
2) Make sure you have activesync USB connection disabled
3) Disconnect your gprs or 3g connection (this is real important)
4) Activate the wireless modem app, start connection
5) make sure your gprs/3g connection is inactive
6) plug your pda into the usb cable
7) pc recognizes the wireless modem
8) install driver
9) Create dial up to *99# or whatever your carrier uses
10) Again make sure your gprs/3g connection is inactive
11) dial using your dialup shortcut
after the first time, all you have to do in make sure your gprs/3g connection is disconnected, start the wireless modem app, plug into your usb cable, dial the *99# using your wirelss modem dialup shortcut
I have it working on both Windows Xp and Windows Vista...It is a great backup to my local internet connection and it is very easy to use

Pardon me if there is a difference, but on my Hermes to use its internal data connection as the bearer you have to use *99# (NOT #99*) as the number to dial when configuring the dial-up connection in Dial-Up Connections.
When I tried it (several times) on my XP laptop, it was almost childishly simple: regardless of whether the phone was already plugged in via USB or not, just load the wireless modem app, set the APN to general.t-mobile.uk, hit Start and bam: I wait for it to initialise (the lights in the application window light up to show connection and data, and once those show up just hit dial. No username, no password, Robert's your mother's brother. Worked every time I tried it.
Using a T-Mobile UK-branded Hermes fwiw.

eagle 1 said:
I have a tytn and it works great, I get 3g speeds between 900 and 1300.
1) Plug the usb cable into your pc
2) Make sure you have activesync USB connection disabled
3) Disconnect your gprs or 3g connection (this is real important)
4) Activate the wireless modem app, start connection
5) make sure your gprs/3g connection is inactive
6) plug your pda into the usb cable
7) pc recognizes the wireless modem
8) install driver
9) Create dial up to *99# or whatever your carrier uses
10) Again make sure your gprs/3g connection is inactive
11) dial using your dialup shortcut
after the first time, all you have to do in make sure your gprs/3g connection is disconnected, start the wireless modem app, plug into your usb cable, dial the *99# using your wirelss modem dialup shortcut
I have it working on both Windows Xp and Windows Vista...It is a great backup to my local internet connection and it is very easy to use
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where do I get the driver for the 8525 to work as a modem?

WTE said:
where do I get the driver for the 8525 to work as a modem?
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off the cd that came w/ your 8525
it tells you how to install it in your user manual.

berdinkerdickle said:
off the cd that came w/ your 8525
it tells you how to install it in your user manual.
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the only CD i have that came in the box is the one that gives you ACTIVE SYNC and OUTLOOK.
Where online can I get the drivers?
My problem is my computer is not recognizing this phone as a modem.

WTE said:
the only CD i have that came in the box is the one that gives you ACTIVE SYNC and OUTLOOK.
Where online can I get the drivers?
My problem is my computer is not recognizing this phone as a modem.
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Why not read the Hermes wiki for some very usefull information:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
The hermes wiki Faq http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_FAQs would have pointed you to a link to download the htc wireless modem driver:
http://www.box.net/public/jytpxq47nk
or search google for HTC Wireless Modem download
and you would have found instructions at
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=1656&catid=80
Good Luck....

is it the same steps througt bluetooth ? I would have to make modem for my Pc throught BT.

Hi, tried to connect to my WIFI router by WPA with TKIP Encryption, but in TYNT isn`t any settings like that. Its availalbe just WEP.
Is any workaround? New driver for wifi or anything?
THX

Bluetooth Null Modem ?

I want to connect to the Internet via a Bluettoth Access Point (Billionton) providing PAN and LAP, or via my Laptop's Bluetooth Network adapter using Internet Connect Sharing.
On the HD, I cannot find the BT NULL Modem option in the Modems list (all I have there are: Bluetooth along with 2 Cellular options and Hayas modem).
Is there a way to have that option?
On my previous PDA, I had installed the Widcomm stack, there I had that option.
Pleae assist
Thaanks

anyone familiarr with that?

Please, Anyone?
As posted above, Can anyone connect to the WEB via a PC using the Bluetooth Network Adapter (with internet connect sharing) ,using the PAN or LAP BT profiles, not just Activesync.
It seems that a BT Null Modem is required to be present on the HTC HD, but I cannot configure that with the current BT stack.
Please assist
Thanks

Yes, it's possible.
Do the following:
1. Enable BT on your device. (make sure it's in visible mode as well)
2. On your PC turn on your internal BT or insert USB BT module.
NOTE: If you are using XP SP2/SP3 I suggest not to use Window's built-in BT stack, as your PC will fail to install BT modem drivers after pairing. Use Widcomm drivers instead. They worked for me In case you're using Vista, there's no need for 3rd party driver installation, as the Vista built-in BT stack will recognize and install BT modem drivers just fine.
3. On your PC, initiate BT device pairing (once again, make sure your device's BT is visible!). Once pairing is done, and BT passwords are exchanged, your PC should discover the available BT services your device can offer. Select at least BT dial-up networking and BT PAN networking. If you are using Widcomm drivers, it will automatically create shortcuts for you for every selected connection.
That's all for the configuration. If you want to use your device as a BT modem for dial-up networking, just click on the dial-up icon Widcomm wizard created for you and enter *99# as a dialing number. Usually there's no need for username/password configuarion when accessing 3G/EDGE. Should your connection fail, then you must add some "extra modem initialization commands" to your BT modem settings in device manager as follows: +CGDCONT=1,"IP","<APN name>" where APN name stands for 3G/EDGE access point your operator gave you. As an example for ATT USA it would be: +CGDCONT=1,"IP","wap.cingular"
In case you decide to connect to the Internet using BT PAN network, there's an extra step needed:
4. On your device, go to Programs->Internet Sharing. In "PC Connection" drop-down box select "Bluetooth PAN" and for "Network Connection" choose you default access point your operator provided.
5. Again make sure your device BT is ON and is in visible mode (ICS will warn you about this anyway). On your PC launch and establish BT PAN connection by using the shortcut the Widcomm has created for you.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
S.

Thanks for the quick response. Still, I may miss something.
As I had mentioned I want to access the internet from my HD via a PC (thus avoiding the cost for GPRS/HSDPA).
1. When you refer to the PAN on the PC side are you refering to the 'Network Access Point'? (I have the Broadcom stack on my PC)
2. When I click on the Network Access icon (on my PC), its starts to connect but immediately it comes up with an error message sayig 'could not connect to remote device'
3. Does the Internet Connect Sharing (ICS) on the HD, facilitate the HD to access the internet via the PC?
4. I used the following configuration for the ICS on the HD:
PC Connection: Bluetooth PAN
Network Connection: <my mobile provider> Internet
5. Do I have to configure something on the BT PAN Network Adapter on my HD (setting>wifi>wireless networks>network adapters)
5. As I understand from your response, when activating the ICS, for this type of connection, the BT PAN actually take over the traffic detined to be carried out via the HSDPA Internet, is it correct?
Thanks again

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