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K-JAM Bluetooth - no COM5 after Hard Reset

I recently received a K-JAM from Dubai where it had been picked up at GITEX. It has the Arabic keyboard and customizations. It worked fine, Bluetooth sync with PC (IBM X41 with IBM Bluetooth IV, Ver 3.0.1.917) via COM5 which is the Bluetooth Serial Port on the PC.
I did a hard reset (default Arabic ROM 1.1.9.3 ExtROM 1.1.9.103), used the Cancel option when asked to choose from a list of Middle Eastern operator customizations, and used the Decline option to avoid installing the Imaginet Custom Arabic software which I don't have any use for.
After that, everything works perfectly EXCEPT that I can no longer do a Bluetooth sync - on the K-JAM, after pairing, when I try to assign a COM port by clicking New Outgoing Port, where earlier (before hard reset) I had the option of COM5, COM6 or COM7, I now have only options for COM6 and COM7.
I setup a second serial port on the PC under Bluetooth Local Services, on COM7, in addition to the first on COM5 and set ActiveSync to use COM7 and the K-JAM to use COM7, but ActiveSync keeps saying "Cannot find an existing Bluetooth partnership with a PC that supportsActiveSync. Would you like to set up a partnership now? Yes No", and no matter how many times I repeat the pairing, it keeps on saying the same thing.
Infrared sync and USB sync continue to work perfectly.
What has happened during the Hard Reset that takes away the option to use COM5 with the New Outgoing Port?
Is there a Registry entry somewhere that I can tweak to allow this? All suggestions to fix this are welcome.
Thanks,
BillyB

Problem solved by riDuh7
See http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=755265 for details

TOMTOM 5 AND GPS HELP?

Hi
I Got O2 Xda Wm 2003,tomtom 5,bt 77 Gps The Problem Is:
I Cant Stablished Contact With A Gps Cos I Got No Port
On Pda Bluetooth Setting.
On The Pda Setting I Got>bluetooth Setting>mode>on>off>
Discoverable ( No Ports As Com 2,6,9...)
And On Tomtom Gps Setting I Got,
Gps Is Connected To:
Infrared Port
Bt On Com6
Serial Cable On Com1
Com9
Com2
Serial On Usb.
How To Add Com Ports In My Pda
Tnx For Your Help

ITS WORKING 100%
I GO IT WORK

Hi,
I have the same problem - no virtual COM port - how did you make it ?
I tried every setting in TOM-TOM and nothing changed. Please help me.

TOMTOM AND GPS
The XDA II comes only with support for BT headsets and ActiveSync through BT. The serial port emulation is also a feature of the Microsoft BT stack but you need a device driver a register port and to handle it
AND ITSOCKET BLUETOOTH TOOLS

T mobile MDA compact & GPS

hi all
i have had a right time trying in vain to get my t mobile MDA compact to work with the holox BT-321 GPS receiver. the reason i am having so much trouble is when i pair the devices, a small window flashes up and says "This bluetooth device supports serial port profile, would you like to create a bluetooth serial port for it?" the window box is labelled "bluetooth serial port COM5" of course i click yes, it asks me for the name, and i leave it what its called "BTGPS74R" and click finish, this leaves me on the main menu. in the com ports tab there is "new outgoing port" and "new incoming port" i click outgoing and next and low and behold there is nothing in the box whatsoever to select. i have checked all the boxes in my bluetooth settings for the 2 com ports.
the phone refuses to show any ports at all, i have flashed the imate jam rom 1.12 as i read that solved it, but it never, i have tried a bluetooth program called pocket bluetooth tools and this brings with it more com ports but they do not actually work by putting the ports in the drop down list, its still empty !!! also when i select say port 6/7/8 the small window flashes up saying "this device supports......" and then the pocket tools dissappears and its all back to nothing again.
i am at my wits end with it and i dont have a clue how to get this bluetooth port to actually show up so i can bond with my bluetooth GPS and make tom tom 5 work
thank you anyone who can help me
Dan

Hi,
i just resolved exactly the same problem on my mda compact.
I had to do a complete reset of the device...

Hi
I am having a similar problem. I have an orange SPV M1000 and the same bluetooth GPS device. It is paired in bluetooth devices. When I got to connect on Tom Tom 5 it can't pich up the receiver. I have tried all the different wired/bluetooth etc device settings in TT as it says to try wired if bluetooth doesnt work. But to no avail. I'm tempted to try different sat nav software. Any ideas? Let me know if your issue gets resolved!
cheers
AJ

Hi guys,
The options for new outgoing/incoming port creation are to connect to a device with which you haven't paired. My gps creates a com5 too, like all of yours & TT5 finds it pretty fast when I have it to use 'another bt gps' @ com5.
When you think a hard-reset will solve your problem, get yourself a good backup first. Cause sometimes you can restore that backup & the problem is still solved.
BTW does your gps support nmea protocol? TT can only handle nmea & that could be the cause when your gps is setup for external communication with another protocol.
Good luck M

Thanks for the reply
Hi there
I've attached the info from my receiver, looks like it should be ok.
Tom Tom only has connections on infrared, BT on COM6, Serial Cable on COM1, COM9:, COM2:, and Serial on USB
When I go to Start>Settings>Bluetooth settings there are options for bluetooth serial settings. These are non changable and if you check the boxes it will set Inbound Com port to COM4 and Outbound COM port to COM5.
These com ports dont seem to be options in Tom Tom 5 which confuses me.
So i download a program called BeeLineGPS which does a scan of all the ports and baud rates which I thought would be easier than the manual setup of TT5.
Try the com port options mentioned earlier with the BeeLine software and it still cant pick up the GPS device. Tried fiddling around for ages and still not working.
Do I need some kind of software for forwarding the ports so TT5 can see the device.
The advert for the device i bought promised me and easy set-up but this is being a pain
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/32-Channel-Bl...03433467QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4668QQcmdZViewItem

All Fixed now. I upgraded the Rom to a newer version. After this the tom tom picked up that it was actually on port 5 which it wasnt doing before. Bobs your uncle

GPS in settings, tomtom problem

I am trying to set up tomtom 5.21 with my BTGPS74 receiver but cant get the two to communicate. I know there is some settings you can change in settings/system/gps but the problem I have is I dont have the gps option in settings anywhere. Am I missing something? Does any on know what I should do. Tomtom wants me to use port 3 or 7 but when I try to set them in bluetooth settings it says its not possible check your settings. Any suggestions would b welcome. Thanks.
P.S I know the receiver works as it still works well with my N70.

...you should've gotten a GPS icon if software GPS recognized.
In rgister you can force simulation.
hklm\controlpanel\gps]
delete redirect and add 'group' with dword=2
Then GPS icon will appear.
I gave it programport 7,hardware 6, baudrate=57600
gps auto checked
I'm not sure about the settings...

I had to create incomming and outgoing com ports on my 3100 (not sure if you need both)??
TomTom used com port 9 and works like a dream
as soon as you start the programme it connects automatically as long as my receiver is on.
It even connects when the BT on the 3100 is turned off - it starts the BT automaticlally when tomtom runs!

Yeah i agree all you need to do is set up the com ports, then fire up tomtom and select the com port you just set up and away it goes
Chris

Thanks for the replies guys. I know I have to set the com ports but the problem I have is there is nowhere for me to do this. For some reason the gps settings is missing from the system/settings. I am going to try to reinstall tomtom to see if it helps. Tomtom has ports 3 and 7 showing but they seem to be taken by something else so I cant configure my receiver on either of them.

I have a slightly different problem... my TyTn can connect to the BT GPS reciever, but as soon as TomTom tries to calculate a route, or I click the GPS signal icon it crashes back to the Today screen...
I've got TomTom installed with 5.21 update, anyone had any problems like this?

you just need to pair your bluetooth device go to settings connections and bluetooth and add new device, let your tytn search and it will find a new device when you have paired it select new comm port outgoing
I have no gps setting in control panel either
Cheers
Chris

Hi,
i have a strange problem with my BT. I cant create a incoming or outgoing BT port. I dont know why but it wont let me create any ports.
Anyone with the same odd problem?

I had a similar problem, Tytn would only let me choose COM0 (Zero) as outgoing port, and TT works fine with it. However, I would like to add Mapking for Asia, and this navi soft will not accept a GPS on COM0. Anybody understands why Tytn is only offering COM0 as outgoing ports for GPS?

I have set the com4 as outgoing port and now tomtom seems to work fine.

thanks for that info.
I don't know why only port 0 and all other ports are blocked but TT works for me now. I only need to wait for a better ROM and i can leave my Wizard home

I have written to a good contact at HTC since I need COM ports other than 0 for Asian Mapking navi soft (in add. to TT) . Will keep you posted.

Answer from HTC:
"As my testing, the Outgoing port is not limited with COM0. PaPaGo can accept with COM0, COM2, COM4, COM8, and COM9. I think the limitation of COM0 is the software limitation of TOMTOM, So if the user wants to use Mapking that only support COM1~7, he need delete the outgoing port COM0, and reassign another COM port for the BT GPS."
I imagine the problem lies between the Tytn and TomTom only, and other navi soft would find other COM ports. But I am kind of hesitant to interfere with a working TomTom, and go through the outgoing COM port game again...

I'm using Navigon and set up an outgoing Connection on com2 and it works fine for me.
sounds like TT is the problem ...
greetz
sphings

Guys, let me try to help you a little bit, as I work in navigation software development (Destinator).
1. The COM ports has nothing to do with the actual software you are running. This is pre-defined in the ROM you are using. That is also the reason why we see variations here - we use different ROMs.
2. In order of enabling a COM port, you do NOT need to discover the GPS icon on the settings. It is quite useless unless you wish to work simultaniusly with more than one software.
3. To enable a COM port, after you pair the GPS, look down for the tab COM Ports in the BT settings Manager. You only need to create Outgoing COM.
4. Strange but usually you will only be able to choose between 2 COM ports. The rest are hidden by the OS. MAKE SURE that you disabled the "Secure Connections". Default key for all the GPS receivers is "0000" and for Globalsat 308 is "2003". The last is AKA HP GPS.
5. If you cannot enable any other COM port than COM0, this is a ROM problem and you should contact your ROM provider like the mobile carrier. You can also try to enable other COM ports with the attached CAB file. Simply run it, it will expose all COM ports for you and now you should start trying. I reccomend to test COMs 4-8 first, normally, it will solve your problems. (Note: I got this file previously here and did not create it myself).

There have been may posts about TomTom not recognising B GPS's.
One solution that doesnlt seem to be mentioned here id to ensure that the name of the GPs in BT connections actually ends in "GPS"..
If it doesn;t renove the pairing and re-pari , but change the name this time to something that ends in "GPS"...
good luck
Charlie Grillo

Thanks guys, found another solution that works for me now:
1) Set your Bluetooth GPS to another COM port than 0 (TomTom´s standard port 6 was not available, so I choose 2)
2) open Programs/Navigator/navigator.cfg with a text editor, change COM0 to COM2
3) start TomTom - working on COM 2!
Started Mapking, found COM 2 - working now.

hello fellas,
as you can see im new here. im thinking of buying the TYTN, a sector which i have never explored before (pda sector).
it sounds great with the applications and due to my work, a need for a pda is becoming bigger.
i posted in this message due to the GPS topic.
i got a very stupid question which you may recieve occasionally if i buy the tytn.. :twisted:
why do a person need BT enabled GPS? i read you can connect it to your PDA but for what reason?
thanks in advance and apologies for any inconvience..

@D_G - welcome to this board
In order to run navigation software on your Tytn you need a external GPS connected to it. Easiest solution is a external GPS connected via Bluetooth.
Another solution would be to buy a PDA phone with a GPS receiver on board, for example the ETen G500.
Of course we would all be interested in a UMTS PDA with integrated GPS, with acceptable battery life, but that will take some time...

thanks lucas for the answer. but why would you need a navigation software if you have a GPS device? in either case you will need to have both devices in a particula blue tooth range. right?
this means you will need your handheld device + the GPS to activate the navigation software, or dd I miss something?!

Universal + BlueTooth GPS problem, help

Dear Htc fellows,
My bluetooth GPS is working strange on my Universal, but on iPaq with
WM2003 works as a charm. The BT GPS is new Solar GPS with new Mediatek
chipset.
It's not working with iGo 2006 and even not Tomtom 5 or Tomtom 6.
I can find the BT GPS in BT manager, I can pair it, but I dont know why,
it needs a pass key even if it shouldn't. Then when I explore it's
services, The popup come again asking me if I will allow external BT
device to connect to my Universal and it come asking passkey again (Why?).
I can't even enter an empty passkey (bt device doesen't require it). After that I have successfully paired the device. I can add it's serial port to enumerate on com ports 8 or 4.
When I start Tomtom, it doesent detect the device at all. If I use iGo, it detects, gets datas and disappear, it's allways appeared for 1 second and then 5 seconds not. No matter Which bitrate I set (device is written to be 9600) it needs to be in NMEA protocol, not SIRF.
When I use some freeware GPS programs, it seams to be working ok, it shows satelites and it's not disappearing.
What can I do with that???
I have some idea that it's probably about WM5 and it's security....
How can I setup com security in registry? can I set the port speads manually atd... I had performed a hard reset and it still don't work. Can ROM update or AKU update help me?
Does anyone have some idea what should I try now?
O2 XDA EXEC:
Rom: 1.30.107
Radio:1.09.00
P:42.42.P8
BT GPS: model: BT 2.5MR
made by f-tech.com.tw
Thanks;
Shef

Could you find a solution??
Hi,
I have the same problem exactly and could not find anything on the net. Did you solve your problem?

well ...
i know that there is a problem with GPS and WM5 and so there is this patch which i install every time i hard reset .....
the guys i bought MY GPS from gave me this ... and they are pretty knowledgable .....
it works well ....
try it !

tried
My OS version is WM2003 but tried anyway.. Did not work.. can there be version for WM2003??

did you ?
did you define an outgoing com port for the device (com 4 for example ?)

com port definition
well, igo finds the device an COM 6 actually, it connects too.. but stays connected just for a second, then again and again..
I installed GPSGate and created a virtual com port 7. I manually configured the GPS receiver connection to COM 7 on igo.. But all the same.. :
do you advice another way?
one other thing the device works with navigon 5.0 and tomtom 6.0 smoothly, no problem.. only igo..

well...
IGO is CRAP ... that is well known .... lots of bugs ...
i am sorry .. i do not know how to solve your problem...
but i suggest using destinator 6 ..... (that's what i use) ....
simple ... nice looking .... big buttons and able to navigate to your contacts directly (especially useful if you have Phone Edition)
oh ... and ... works great !

I got the Holux GPSlim 236 GPS. I can pair the GPS with Universial. But I cannot set the com port at all. A pop up window always say the com port (I tried everyone of the ports) is not available.
Any one got a solution, does the GPS bug fix help ? and what does it fix ?

Might seem a bit obvious, but have you tried the code "0000" when pairing your device?

Once paired...did you define an outgoing serial port on "Bluetooth Settings" menu on your WinCE?
I have a royaltek bluetooth GPS and it's been working well with TomTom[5|6]...I use '0000' as passkey (default on many 'non-interactive' devices), once paired I clicked on 'COM Ports' tab and defined a new outgoing port, the wizard should list the GPS as an available device to create a COM port so I used it and I got a 'com0'.
Once the outgoing port was created I had to tell TomTom to use the new 'com0' and worked like a charm
It's been working since TomTom 5.21 (previous versions didn't work).