Hello
The other day i surfed to google from my XDA exec.
mobile internet rocks!!
i was wondering how does google know that i surfed in from a pda, cause i think it sent me to
www.google.co.uk/pda
the web page probably detected your screen size and redirected you to a page that was more friendly to you PDA browser. i wish more sites would do this.
www.google.com/pda for us US residents.
LOL
Not the screen size but the type of your internet browser, in this case Pocket IE.
Correct--it's not the screen size.
Although a LOT of your information is sent over the wire, much more than most of us realize, your resolution information is unknown to most websites, unless you explicitly allow it to be given via some kind of an executable that transmits such information. An example would be an embedded ActiveX object in IE for Windows.
Back on topic, yes, your browser information is known, not only to Google, but to every other website you visit. Not only that, the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy) and where you went when you left it. There's a whole bunch of information deemed to be private that we would rather keep to ourselves (such as our surfing habits) that's known to any website that installs a cookie (a common thing nowadays) on your computer.
This is also how Google knows where you are. For example, when I log on, Google send me to the local Saudi page at http://www.google.com.sa/ It knows this information by doing a reverse lookup on your IP address, and comparing it against known databases of geographically assigned IPs. Since IP addresses are assigned and tied to geographical locations, it's easy enough to do, although it's still very disconcerting to see.
Be careful folks, even your searching habits are being tracked by Google. I have nothing to hide, so I don't care, but many folks do. Witness the recent Federal inquiry into the searching habits of the users of major search engines. Yahoo and MSN gave up that information quickly enough but Google is resisting. I don't think it will be able to hold out for very long though.
Imagine...now the fact that you searched for p0rn on the 'net is well known to anyone in the know. Scary, isn't it?
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thanks monakh
so google can detect both my mobile ip address (is there such a thing?) and my browser, correct?
monakh said:
the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy)
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Correct, through the referrer...
monakh said:
and where you went when you left it.
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Only if you click a link on the site itself, -and- it is handled via a special handler.
No information is sent to a website when you leave it through e.g. a bookmark in your browser, or by typing in a new URL.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
You are correct.
hey i mailed myself (google account) using my adsl modem and using the gprs/3g connection to check the header to see if i could spot an originating ip address
i found one common ip address
Received: by 10.xy.za.b with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:34:45 -0800 (PST)
i guess this is the google server, correct?
is there any way to prise the originating ip address from an email
That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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Not entirely... I mean, you could - of course. But it also means that many sites will fail to send you PDA-specific content - which, with most plans/top-ups, means heavy costs.
Identifying PIE as IE6 is more used for stupid websites who check whether the browser is IE6 or above, regardless of whether that is actually required by the site.
There's three parts, the compatibility bit ('(Default) = Mozilla/4.0'), the browser string ('Version = MSIE 6.0') and the platform ('Platform = Windows NT 5.0'). If you leave the last bit intact ('Platform = Windows CE'), then you should still be able to get into stupid sites, while having PDA-friendly sites send you the PDA content.
oh i had not thought about the popups
i guess we wont get(suffer) popups with mobile ie5?
i just posted to this bulletin board to check my ip address
from the pc it looks like this 82.1a.bcd.efg
and fro my cda it looks like 193.abc.def.ghi
That's fine because presumably your mobile device and your home PC are on different networks so they sport different IPs.
IPs are a dead giveaway. In many cases, your position can be 'somewhat' and primitively triangulated to within 5 square miles of where you are. This may not be necessarily true for mobile networks, but those networks know where you are at all times anyway. In fact, there is now regulation in the US that mandates all handset makers to manufacture hardware with GPS functionality built-in. Between the two and a half dozen GPS satellites and your cellular network, you can run but you can't hide
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
Of course...
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This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
Being able to find you at any time is an added perk but it needs court orders even if you have been reported and officially designated a "missing person". Getting such a court order can take many hours, being declared a missing person can take 24 hours up to 48 hours (depends on the country and exactly what reasons you have to believe the person in question is truely missing).
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monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
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Ahh yes, I stand corrected.
It's so we CAN make the call and are unable to state the location. That WOULD make sense. However, like you said, there are legal hurdles, although at least in the U.S., they are fewer and far between.
is there any ip address list out there which tells me which ip addresses are allocated to which country?
are ip addresses bunched like telephone numbers
e.g. +1 is north america
+3 and +4 is europe
+96 & +97 middle east
nope, that's not how they work
organisations can get an IP from their service provider, who get blocks from their service providers, who get bigger blocks from places like RIPE, who in turn get huge blocks from ARIN.
But if it's a specific IP you're interested in, try VisualRoute
Hello, I need help here. My sim is on 3 network and I signed up for the unlimited GPRS but bought HTC advantage and was able to connect to 3. It has been merry until few days ago when I cannot download emails again except I got via web, I've tried everything possible including hard reset. But once on wifi, I'm able to. The question is, is it possible for network to block this like they do msn messenger? if so, is there any hope or I should just cancell the data plan as this was the main reaso for taking it. Look forward to help. Thanks.
Yes they can. EVERY internet protocol and every program can be blocked if the carrier so wants. Contact your carrier and ask them what their policy on POP2 access is. If its blocked or they don't get a straight answer, then I'd cancel.
Thanks a lot for the reponse, it seems that is the case. I called and they said I should not normally have had access to POP3/IMAP downloads. And I'm just about to cancel the web package. Cheers.
I think they are talking coblers! 3's own mail '3mail' is IMAP mail! So of course you need to access it! Calll again and insist of speaking to scotland as then you might get a straight answer!
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Hello, I need help here. My sim is on 3 network and I signed up for the unlimited GPRS but bought HTC advantage and was able to connect to 3. It has been merry until few days ago when I cannot download emails again except I got via web, I've tried everything possible including hard reset. But once on wifi, I'm able to. The question is, is it possible for network to block this like they do msn messenger? if so, is there any hope or I should just cancell the data plan as this was the main reaso for taking it. Look forward to help. Thanks.
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Bad call - 3 are terrible!
Anyhow, if you check with your email provider you may find they provide an alternative port for email access... the most usual blocked port is 25 because that's the one most people use for POP3 access.
Hope that helps...
I have been dealing with this for some time and am finally reaching out. I really hope this makes sense, if not please tell me and I will try to clarify.
I have two windows 2k3 servers at home with shares on each. I can see and map the shares with my pda on one server just fine but the other doesn't work at all. I can see both computers on the pda and the shares are accessible from 6 other machines both logged as domain users and local accounts. I've made sure the permisions were identical on both machine (along with checking everything I could think of a million friggin times) I finally noticed that if I enter false credentials into the login for the working server then I get a failed security audit with the faulty username along in the event log along with a second separate one showing my wireless network username for school as the attempted username . On the non working machine I only get this school username and nothing else regardless of what I enter into the pda. The best I can figure, one server is allowing the failed attempt and moving on to the good and the other is stopping after the first. Someone PLEASE tell me why a username ONLY entered into the wireless network settings of my schools network (settings that I have removed with no effect) would be forced into my attempts to map a network drive? Ima lose my god damn mind!
FFS!!! Finally found the solution. Evidently the policy setting in 2k3 domain controllers requires SMB signing while member servers don't. This is why I could stream from my regular server and not my domain controller. Resco explorer's FAQ of all things had the answer and the solution if anyone needs it.
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Windows CE networking is not able to map the drives from the servers using SMB signing.
This can be solved by changing the following setting in the Domain Controller Security Policy under Local Policies --> Security Options
Microsoft Network Server: Digitally sign communications (always): Disabled
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I would like to find a way to block my employee from accessing certain gambling website. I have used pocket hosts to map that site name to 127.0.0.1, however, my employee can still access that web using the IP adress. Is there anyway to block access to that IP once and for all?
Just let me see wheter I understand your situation:
* your employee gambles during workhours
* on a PDA provided by his employer
* he continues to gamble despite warnings and technical hurdles
This must be one very valued employee, as you apparently don't want to have him unceremoniously fired?
Hi All,
I need to disable internet access for a customer on about 50 Trinity XDAs but keep data open.
The XDAs are used to report back to a server with certain data, but the internet access is being abused by some of their employees.
I have spoken to O2 to ask if they can block port 80, but they tell me it's all or nothing.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to do this on the XDAs or any third party software to password protect IE?
Many thanks.
Windows style login
Since posting the previous question, the goalposts have moved.
Is there any way of having a windows style login on an XDA so when different users are logged into the device, there is a record of which user was logged in and at what times?
I know this sounds a little complicated, but there will be around a dozen users in this scenario and my customer's preference is to try to monitor who was using the XDA at a given time when checking the bills - both for phone calls and internet usage.
Thanks again!