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hi folks tried to update special rom and upon where the XDa comes up with upgrading takes 5mins the software crashed out telling me to remove from cradle and do soft reset well did all that but cant get active sync to recongnise the XDA and the XDA is still on that upgraing 5 minute screen HELP

If it will not resume when you restart the upgrade program on the PC, then it's time to upgrade via the bootloader method. You need (access to)an SD-card reader/writer for the PC, and to read around on this forum a bit.

thanxs I guess thats the conclusion I came to however just to make sure do u know the steps involved in installing the special rom I have the download exe file someones put on the forum

****. I cooked a second ROM (based on testing the first one - and removing utils I didn't need)
Flashing started - but this time, ActiveSync dropped out and I was left with the 5 minutes screen.
I have tried hard reset but only the "upgrading' screen appears. Now I'm wishing I had never messed with it.
I can get the Wallaby Boot loader screen to come up (GSM OK) it says.
But I have no clue about this other "bootloader" method mentioned on this page. Can anyone please advise where can I find details of the fix? Is the ROM really wiped out and no longer recoverable?

I have the same problem as the first person who posted.

Then you will need to restore the OS using an SD card. (Min 64mb).
Probably easiest to cook a ROM at Jeffs Kitchen to your taste:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Save it as .nb1 type (bottom of that page).
Then get XDA Tools (yes I know its starting to sound complicated but its not really). http://xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
That program allows you to copy the .nb1 file you cooked to be loaded onto the SD card.
Once you have transferred the OS (.nb1) file to the SD, stick it in your XDA.
Turn on the XDA pressing simultaneously the on switch and sticking the stylus in the SOFT reset hole.
You should get a white screen saying something like flash ROM from SD. Press the JOG (navigator) big switch at the bottom to start the process.
Make sure you have mains power to XDA during this process.
When it finishes, REMOVE the SD card and press HARD reset.
Should be back to normal!

p.s. It goes without saying that you need an SD card reader !!
p.p.s I hope yours is better than mine. Try to get the latest version with drivers that can deal with big SD card sizes...

It does not say hard reset it say cold reboot to reset. So I did a soft reset and it worked after about 7 tries.
I really like what they did with this ROM Kitchen. I would think that if they can get this really stable then they should offer a service to create your own ROM's allowing the user to select what programs they want to include in the ROM.

Er, if you read other areas on this site you will notice that this is run by enthusiasts, who are making their work available to others.
So a little please and thank you will ease your way.
Rather than... "they should" maybe "it would be nice if...."
:idea: If you really want to DIY - then follow all the instructions, get yourself a Unix platform and MKROM.
Bye
ps sorry I got one detail wrong.
pps Sorry I bothered actually

Ariel said:
Er, if you read other areas on this site you will notice that this is run by enthusiasts, who are making their work available to others.
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Believe me as the owner of www.pocketpcminds.com I understand this. Back in the days of carrying a Palm OS device there a program that allowed you to add and delete things in your ROM.
What I was suggestion is a service that users could pay for that would inlude a list of Pocket PC programs that the users could choose what programs they want loaded in the ROM. From what I have seen of Pocket PC users each person has a list of programs that they find useful and use regularly.
I onlt suggest this because the people running this need to cover thier cost. Otherwise they may use intrest and stop it all together.

We're all too busy with other things to turn the ROMkitchen into a commercial thing. But if anyone else wants to do so, please contact us.
Pro:
- It would be a great sales platform for software (spb gprs monitor, PIMs, etc.)
Con:
- Available space shrinks as OS grows
- No idea how this works out on XDA II yet

Can't burn the Wallaby Patch to the SD
When I try to burn Wallaby Patch to SD the following error appears
Failed to open device \\.\PhysicalDrive8
Anyone help with this.

hi I did all that but when the XDA is being flashed it finishes but comes with achecksum error now I know I am doing everything right as I managed to reload O2 original .nb1 file and my xda is still as was however I want the forums version rom so can unlock many thanx for the previous how 2 instructions

SD card flash - 5 min screen
Ariel said:
Then you will need to restore the OS using an SD card. (Min 64mb).
Probably easiest to cook a ROM at Jeffs Kitchen to your taste:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
Save it as .nb1 type (bottom of that page).
Then get XDA Tools (yes I know its starting to sound complicated but its not really). http://xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
That program allows you to copy the .nb1 file you cooked to be loaded onto the SD card.
Once you have transferred the OS (.nb1) file to the SD, stick it in your XDA.
Turn on the XDA pressing simultaneously the on switch and sticking the stylus in the SOFT reset hole.
You should get a white screen saying something like flash ROM from SD. Press the JOG (navigator) big switch at the bottom to start the process.
Make sure you have mains power to XDA during this process.
When it finishes, REMOVE the SD card and press HARD reset.
Should be back to normal!
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I have a similar 5 min screen, and I tried as told, that is bought a card reader, cooked ROM, downloaded and transferred the nk.nb1 file to sd card using xda-tools, and entered into bootloader. But all I get is WAIT and then GSM OK message. Not the one that gives me option of flashing the ROM. How exactly to transfer the ROM image to SD card?

Rom Flash Crash
Just in case
I found that getting the XDA going initially by putting across the O2 installer programmeA onto the SD card rebootting with soft reset which installs the standard O2 locked phone system however this allows your XDA to be seen by the PC
all I did then was using the Kitchen Rom is double clicked it then goes into install mode through Programme A and does a PC to phone install.
I found I reinstalled twice and the phone now is working unlocked as required
I tried many times to do the soft reset install as instructed on the forum but it just crashed everytime

I guess the WBL version 5.15 does not identify nk.nb1 file as a rom image. it needs the rom image in raw form, the same as it is copied by bootloader that is WinCE to SD. I think the old XDArit writes it in the required format. dont know how the XDA-Tools does it.

ROM flash crash - solved!
It finally worked. With help from ntabikha, a member of this forum, I got it going. I plugged it in the cradle after hard reset. Activesync kept announcing that it can not connect to the device, and I kept clicking "Retry" (perhaps "disconnect com port" might as well have been all right, but I didn't do it. I thought it might disconnect the com port and stop the Program A from connecting to the device).
I then ran the Original Qtek Upgrade installer, and it did not connect on the first attempt. But it asked me to soft reset the device and run the program again. I did so, and whoa! it worked! It worked great! However, I don't understand why the cooked version 3.17 from Jeff's kitchen was installed instead of Qtek Upgrade Version 3.16.52. I care the least though, since I now have a working xda! Thanks to the guidance from ntabikha.

IDIOTS GUIDE

Can anybody, please, post me an idiots on how to flash a ROM, not using the .EXE version?
I've downloaded the 4.00.16 ROM by mistake, it really didn't tell the ROM number, so now I want to revert to a earlier one and I can't.
I've got the following message: "ERROR: GetDeviceData - An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.
error getting devicedata"
and then
"ERROR 011: EXECUTE REMOTE COMMUNICATION PROGRAM ERROR. Cannot execute the remote communication program. Please make sure that the USB/Serial cable is properly connected."
Stupidly, I haven't got a SD card. :evil:
PLEASE HELP ME, I'M REALLY STUCK NOW AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO...

Hi ritmo-unido,
The another way to flash a ROM would be to use the bootloader method but requires a PC card reader and a SD card which you already stated that you don't have an SD card.

HiQman,
I supose I'll have to get them.
Will you post me the instructions, PLEASE?
:?

Qman said:
Hi ritmo-unido,
The another way to flash a ROM would be to use the bootloader method but requires a PC card reader and a SD card which you already stated that you don't have an SD card.
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Qman,
Will a USB card reader be OK?
Please advise.
:lol:

Yes.

DISCLAIMERS:
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NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE
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THESE INSTRUCTIONS WILL ERASE YOUR XDA!
ALL DATA WILL BE LOST (YES, ALL)
BACKUP YOUR XDA FIRST!
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NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE NOTE
The XDA I have performed this method on has the 5.14 bootloader.
I do not know if it works the same way for any other version.
If your XDA has a different bootloader version,
this may not work... and may leave you with an UNUSABLE XDA...
You have been warned.
Please see this article: http://www.xda-developers.com/bootloader/
XDATools, used below to burn ROM files onto
SD Cards will ERASE / FORMAT the SD Card where it writes the ROM.
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Ok, with that out of the way, here goes...
If you are one to tinker with your XDA, and are going
to be loading ROMs, Please take this advice:
-- Invest in an SD Card Reader
USB, Serial, whatever, as long as
the SD Card Reader looks like a Removable Disk to Windows.
-- Invest in a 64MB SD Card that is used for
loading/reloading/re-reloading ROMs, it will be ERASED
whenever you write a ROM image to it.
I purchased a JumpDrive Trio (USB 2.0) for $20 from Wal-Mart. The 64MB SD Card was about $32.
Steps to reload your XDA using the SD-Card method
=================================================
1. Back up your XDA
2. Verify that Step 1 worked.
3. Download/Install XDATools,
http://xda-developers.com/XDAtools/XDAtools.exe
4. Obtain the .NBF or .NB1 file you wish to load on your XDA
These instructions will assume the ROM image file is in C:\ROMDirectory\
and is NK.NB1
5. Attach your SD Card Reader, with the Target SD CARD loaded.
These steps assume this device is X:.
6. Run XDATools Utility called OSImageTool.EXE.
C:\Program Files\XDAtools\binaries\OSImageTool.exe
7. Set the Parameters
Source: C:\ROMDirectory\NK.NBF or c:\ROMDirectory\NK.NB1 (use the ... button)
Target: X:\ [59.1 MB Disk Drive]
NOTE: the above paths are examples... please use the appropriate paths to your files
8. Click the 'Copy' button.
Watch the progress Bar, it will fill, and 'Time left:' will go to 00:00...
When Time Left is 00:00 the Copy is Complete.
9. Remove the SD Card from the Reader, insert it into your XDA
If your XDA is ON, it may ask you to FORMAT the SD Card, SAY NO!
NOTE: an SD Card with a ROM image is not recognized by PPC 2002/WM 2003
10. Soft-Reset your XDA while pressing the POWER button (top button)
This will boot into the Wallaby BootLoader utilities.
11. You should see a Prompt that says: ROM Image Found, Press 'Action' to Flash Rom.
Press the Action Button (thats the directional Pad, press it in the middle)
12. The Rom will be Flashed. It takes about 5 mins.
The numbers at the bottom will count up to 00200000 ( I think.)
13. Once the counting stops, you should be prompted to do a HARD RESET of the Device. Do this.
A hard reset is where you press the button in the very small hole near the earphone jack.
You need to use the small pin on the top of the stylus... you unscrew the 'eraser' end of
your stylus to expose this pin.
14. REMOVE the SD CARD from the SD Slot. Store it in a safe place.
15. Wait for 60 seconds.
16. Press the HARD RESET button again. Your Device should boot using the new ROM Image.
I really hope this helps you out of your jam!!
J
NOTES:
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I dont really have any advice for you if the above steps fail,
or if something other than the 'happy path' occurs (as outlined above)...
I once had a problem on Step 12. The XDA never started counting...
So, I just did another soft reset to the bootloader,
got prompted to load the ROM again, and that time it worked.

jta
Thanks for your notes.
I'll try very carefully! I'll let you know the results... :?

jta,
You are GOD! :lol:
IT DID WORK PERFECTLY! I'm back with my bubbled o2!!!
I owe you one!
What a great help!
You are supperb. 8) :lol:

<blush>
Thanks. I am glad I help!
J

jta,
My Bootloader 5.15 is that work for me too, because I can't get some software work on My T-Mobile after I upgrade to PPC 2003, and it keep hanging when I doing something, so I want to downgrade to PPC 2002, any suggest the stable one, and if possible the link pls.
Thanks you ver much,
Ray

uc98, yes, it should work for you.
If you want to downgrade to the original 2002 rom from T-Mobile, you can download the 'update' from their website, run the program, it will unzip files into a "c:\program files\ruu\" folder, and in there you can find the NK.NBF file.
The full path to that file would be :
Code:
C:\Program Files\RUU\english\NK.NBF
Here is the link.
http://www.t-mobileapps.com/downloadcenter/Software_Detail.cfm?ID=15
NOTE: This information is for use with the ENGLISH version of the T-Mobile system upgrade.
I hope this helps!
jta

uc98 said:
any suggest the stable one, and if possible the link pls.
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HTTP://WWW.YORCH.NET ROM KITCHEN
ROM V. 3.17.03

A heartfelt thank you
thanks to you all, my xda breathes again.
I have very limited knowledge, nevertheless I was able to render my xda useless. However, this forum has helped me recover
thanks again, you're all lifesavers HAVE A MERRY XMAS XDA DEVELOPERS!

HANGS AT "GSM OK"
Hi,
I am trying to flash my ROM using an image NK.nb1 downloaded from Yorch's Kitchen. Using jta's steps, I start my wallaby bootloader,.. and after a while it just hangs at GSM OK?
I am using bootloader v5.15. Any help or suggestions??

Re: HANGS AT "GSM OK"
thePhoneGuy said:
after a while it just hangs at GSM OK?
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The phone isn't recognizing that there's a ROM image on the SD card. Make sure you've used XDATools or XDArit to put the ROM image onto the card. You can't just use Windows to copy the file onto the card - it needs to be in the form of a "raw" ROM image.

thanks, pdhenry..
I was just copying the image file into the reader instead of writing to it
-k

hey i have damaged my boot image and i know there is only 1

:idea:
hey i have damaged my boot image and i know there is only 1 way that i can fix it becouse it dosent boot that i need an alterior operating system and i need to know if anyone knows of one that will go on a flash rom card so i can boot from that and repair my boot ROM
Thanks
Travis

if you mean boodleader then xdatools have an option to fix that
if you mean that it's the rom that is messed up then you need to flash a new rom a backup rom you made or a new rom from a rom kitchen or from the maker of your xda's site

thanks but im still in trouble!
well i have got the new one but i can boot it up and i cant active sync it at all i can do a reset but it dosnt get past the designed for windows mobile screen and my ROM and Windows image are gone and i need a boot image for a flash card so i can re-write the ROM.
sorry
Thanks!
Travis

if you can get to the bootloader screen (soft reset while pressing power) and its version is less than 6.22, the chances are good that you can use SD card with a .nbf ROM file to flash your ROM.
The point is that you will need SD reader for PC or another working XDA

thanks
i have 3 available for the rom transport but where can i get it any good sites known of if any plz msg me thanks heaps
Thanks
Travis :lol:

http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
where you make a rom
guide to flash the rom
Ok here you go, its a little outdated but its what I still use:
Qman's how to use XDArit to write nk.nb1 or nk.nbf to your SD card aka the Bootloader Method!
1. Place XDArit and the nk.nb1 or nk.nbf file in the same folder and start XDArit.
2. Select your SD card (disk drive) from the drop down menu.
3. Select Write to SD
Notice that the Windows CE box is already checked so just click the browse button at the end of that window.
4. Select your (nk.nb1 or nk.nbf) image and then Open
Notice by default XDArit will open looking for a *.nb1 file but if you're going to use a .nbf file you'll have to manually change the "Files of Type" to *.nbf
Notice that nk.nbo / nk.nbo was automatically added as your boot-loader and its check box is unchecked so leave it that way and click OK. XDArit should start writing to the card.
When XDArit has finished writing the image put the SD-card into the XDA and hold the power button and soft reset. You'll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a "Soft Boot/Reset".
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thanks for everything now for the testing session
thanks for everything now for the testing session
cross my fingers it all turns out well oh and thanks again
Thanks
Travis

Double Trouble
Hey folks, anyone, help!
I used the "fix bootloader" software but the loading was interrupted and I only succeeded in frying my bootloader meaning the usual "soft reset while holding down the power button" no longer works for me. Unfortunately, when my XDA I encountered this problem, I had loaded the 4.01.16 t-mobile OS which I just found out jams a direct upgrade meaning I can no longer load any other ROM through the cradle so now I'm stuck with this stupid t-mobile version OS on my O2 XDA and have no way (that I know of) of upgrading or even downgrading.
Can anyone out there help me out? Please?

may be send to repair
are u sure ur soft reset is not work ? may be it have problem in ur xda
sorry in bad english...

make an image of my ROM

hell guys how can i make an image of my mobile ROm with all the software I have installed so next time I just need to flash again the image I backed up....something like Ghost for PC....do u know anysoftware...better freeware?
thanks a lot
a hope this topic can be hepful for some other newbie
cu

Giordano said:
hell guys how can i make an image of my mobile ROm with all the software I have installed so next time I just need to flash again the image I backed up....something like Ghost for PC....do u know anysoftware...better freeware?
thanks a lot
a hope this topic can be hepful for some other newbie
cu
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Yes.
You need:
1. SD card (128MB is big enough)
2. Terminal program that can speak through the USB port
3. A CID-unlocked device
Boot to the loader (hold CAMERA while powering on) - the "three color screen". Plug in the phone and kill the wcescomm.exe process on XP (this is the ActiveSync USB driver process)
Start your terminal program and hit return. You should get a command prompt.
Type: "r2sd all"
The phone will dump the enitre ROM, including the extended ROM, to the SD card.
When done it will tell you. Remove hte card and store somewhere safe.
To restore, insert card, hold the CAMERA key and turn the power on. There will be a brief prompt telling you to press the VOICE key if you wish to restore from the SD card. Press the VOICE key.
The phone will restore.
This will work even if you brick it, so long as you can get to the tri-color screen.
Note that it appears NOT to back up the SPL - I just used this to return to the T-Mobile ROM from the new I-Mate one, and EVERYTHING restored EXCEPT for the SPL, which remains at the former level. Not quite sure why..... it should have dumped it all, but that's missing.
However, the restore appears to be fine and it both loaded and went thorugh customization without incident.

great it's very easy actually...but I didnt get it what u mean for terminal program....is there any detail
thanks so much in any case

An ASCII terminal program that can talk out the USB port.
Terraterm (there's a patch for it) is one option; there are several others as well. Basically you need to be able to open an ASCII terminal connection to the USB port on the device.

GREAT THANXXXXXX 8)

SPL`
What is the SPL?

There are two little pieces of code that start up the phone. "IPL" or Initial Program Load" and "SPL" or "System (or software) Program Load"
For reasons I don't quite understand the SPL does not get restored reliably off a SD restore. It doesn't hurt anything, but it does leave you with a changed version number on the splash screen.

CAB problems

Hello, i am trying to HardSPL my Tmobile wing. I was told to install thre cabs but i cannot. When i try to install them it says "installation was unsuccesful". Is it possible to flash my phone without it or ues USPL or something. Any help would be appreciated.

what cabs do you mean, are you talking about the yang cabs, please explain

How to HardSPL
livndeadgrl13 said:
what cabs do you mean, are you talking about the yang cabs, please explain
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The three that you have to install, of course! Here's an amazing guide by Apreincher, with the CAB's included. Try re-downloading the CAB's and installing them. Tell us the specific errors that you get, too!
Steps to flash using HardSPL: (PDF Version)
It is a good idea to flash back to stock ROM just to be safe. If you are using a T-Mobile Wing you can download it from T-Mobile or from this guide. If it's a herald you can download it from this guide.
It is important that your IPL is 4.xxx or Higher. If it is not, do not attempt a HardSPL it WILL brick your phone. You can find out the IPL by going into Bootloader:
While holding the camera button do a soft-reset by pressing the stylus into the reset hole next to the volume slider. Release the reset switch while still holding the camera button. A colored screen will come up listing your IPL and SPL. If next to IPL it says 4.xxx or higher, proceed to step 2.
Reset back into your normal phone OS.
Go to Settings- Connections- USB to PC and check the checkbox on that page.
Install the 3 CABs in this order:
Canon Yang.cab
ASerg Policies.cab
Disable Security.cab
Soft reset the phone.
Download the HardSPL folder, extract it, and place it on the Desktop.
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe located in the HardSPL folder. Update the ROM using the steps on the screen. The screen will become white, but wait until the phone reboots itself. It could be 10-15 minutes.
Phone should boot back into some strange looking ROM. This is the HardSPL ROM. So far so good.
Check your SPL by going to bootloader again. If it says 4.70.yang, you are good as gold and HardSPLed.
Okay so now how do I flash after I'm in HardSPL?
There are actually two ways to flash while you are HardSPLed. You can use the flash center method or the SD card method. Most LZX and Micro ROM's require you to flash through the SD card method.
Flash Center with HardSPL:
Open the HardSPL folder and remove the .nbh file that is located in there. Replace it with the .nbh file you downloaded with your favorite ROM.
Run ROMUpdateUtility.exe
You've installed a custom ROM on HardSPL.
Flash through SD Card with HardSPL:
Unfortunately, sometimes this can be a bit more complicated. Make sure you use an SD card and not an SDHC card.
Your storage card will hopefully be lower than 4 GB, or else it might have trouble locating the file. If your storage card is larger, you can partition it to be smaller. Also, no SDCH cards will work.
You must format that storage card to FAT32.
Now, you download the ROM (and uncompress it if it’s a .7z, .rar, or .zip file).
Place the downloaded and uncompressed ROM file (.NBH) into the root of your storage card. Also, you must rename it HERAIMG.nbh. (Captialized)
Put the SD Card into your phone, and with your phone turned on, hold the camera button down. While holding the camera button, press and release the soft reset button. Keep holding the camera button until a new, white screen appears.
If it displays a white screen with blue text that says Checking SD contents and then Update Image proceed to step the next step.
If it immediately goes into the colored bootloader screen, it appears your phone's bootloader is not finding your SD card. Some SD cards require special formatting for some reason. Plug the SD card into your computer using an SD card reading and right click on Computer and click Manage. Click Disk Management on the right pane. Select the SD card from the list and right click and select Format. Under Allocation Unit Size, select 4096. Format and ignore any errors. Proceed with steps 2-4. If it does not work even with this adjustment, your SD card might be too slow. Or you have a SDHC card which isn't easily recognized by bootloader.
This screen that you’re on will have a white background, with blue letters. It will search for your HERAIMG.nbh file, and once it finds it, it’ll give you 10 seconds to answer yes.
To flash the ROM, when it asks you if you want to flash this, press down on the volume slider. Weird, eh? Just do it.
Now, let it flash for a good 10 minutes.
Success! Press any key. Press down on the volume slider again, and you’re on the color screen now. Hold the power button to turn off the phone, and then turn your phone back on. Welcome to your new ROM!
If you are already HardSPL and something happens and flashing doesn't work and you find that your phone appears to be off and won't turn on. Don't panic. Go into Bootloader and use the Flash Center directions to flash a ROM.
--------Thanks to Apreincher for the AMAZING write up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I tried it just says installation was unsuccesful

afo88 said:
I tried it just says installation was unsuccesful
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Which CAB and what order? Give us more info.

The cabs posted in the tut u gave me
1. Canon Yang.cab
2. ASerg Policies.cab
3. Disable Security.cab
Ive even tried them from another download source. I tried it in the or der that was said it just says "installation of ......... was unsuccessful" and delets the CAB. I also noticed that when i go to add or remove programs noyhin shows up on the list.