Serial Cradle from USB Cradle - MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading

Tip for making Serial Cradle without soldering.
1. Open USB cradle.
2. All serial wires are located at the same connector where the power supply is.
3. To plug the wires simply pull the spaghetti insulation over connector pins.
After unlocking you can get the USB Cradle to its original state.

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Serial & USB pin connections for XDA2

I would like to connect my XDA2 to a garmin gps. I know there are ways to do it with null modem cables etc, but would like to use a simple cable, cut the end off it and put a pfranc connector on the Tx and Rx serial wires.
I wondered about using this as a starting point, as it would let me provide power to the XDA2 also.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=58544&item=5137949363
But.....it is USB. Can I simply cut off the USB connector and identify the Tx Rx wires as with simple serial cables. I suspect due to the plug & play nature of USB, the wiring is more complex.
Thanx
J
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors
I don't know much about the USB side though.
Thanks thats helpful.....The USB is quite separate from the serial transmission, so cables will not be interchangable. Have ordered some connectors, and just make one from scratch. 8)

HTC TyTN Y Cable

Has anyone ever tried splicing the HTC TyTN Y Cable Version: 11pin to 5pin + 6pin to a regular 5pin USB cable.
cooldrewb said:
Has anyone ever tried splicing the HTC TyTN Y Cable Version: 11pin to 5pin + 6pin to a regular 5pin USB cable.
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Huh? It already allows you to plug in a 5 pin USB cable into the power side (5 pin). What are you trying to do?
URPREY said:
Huh? It already allows you to plug in a 5 pin USB cable into the power side (5 pin). What are you trying to do?
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I would guess power in and audio out at the same time
I am using my phone in my car and don't want the power cable and music cable hanging down in front of my dash. What I want to do is run a USB cable out of my phone, drill a small hole and have the HTC TyTN Y Cable and everything else hidden.
Ooops when I said drill a small hole I am drilling it in my dash. I am just trying to extend the HTC TyTN Y Cable and unfortunately that is a different style connect on the end so there are no cables out there with a female end. So I figured I would splice it.
So can this be done?
If you want to split audio/power, you CAN NOT USE an USB cable.
See the difference between AUDIO jack (hearphones) & USB Jack.
also, the jack of the earphones is good, but it hasn't connected the power cables to the pins. i hope if you cut the cable, you will find only audio/mic cables.
so, or you buy a TyTn Y Cable and cut/extend it; or you have a male connector like that on earphones, and do with it all that you want.
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OOps... i've understood now the very question.... :emb :emb
an user has dismantled it... HERE
What I want to do is leave the headphone and power intact and cut the male end off(the end that plugs into the phone) then take a regular USB 5pin cord and splice it onto that. Does that make more sense.
cooldrewb said:
What I want to do is leave the headphone and power intact and cut the male end off(the end that plugs into the phone) then take a regular USB 5pin cord and splice it onto that. Does that make more sense.
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If you just want to extend it, buy the 3 way adapter from Brando and mod that one. What we're trying to tell you is that there are 11 wires in that harness, so if you want to extend the cord, all you'll need to do it splice a new set of extension wires in (multiple USB cables?). If you can solder, that's no big deal. I have mine mounted in a Brodit powered cradle with audio going into my car stereo, and the y cable is tucked behind the cradle and the wires hidden into my dash.
How many wires are in the Brando? Is it pretty easy to splice? Sorry if I am asking a stupid question.
cooldrewb said:
How many wires are in the Brando? Is it pretty easy to splice? Sorry if I am asking a stupid question.
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I haven't taken mine apart, but I assume it still has 11 wires (one for each pin). The reason I was suggesting this is because if you want to have a 3.5mm audio out, you either have to buy an HTC-specific USB to 3.5mm audio adapter for $12-$15, or you can buy the Brando unit which includes everything for ~$20 (and if you screw it up, you're only out the $20).
Splicing wires isn't difficult, but if you're not handy with a soldering iron it might be. These a pretty small wires (30 gauge?). Practice on an old USB cable first.
I already have the 3.5mm headphone jack and the power connected. My only problem is the end that plugs into the phone. Instead of making a standard mini USB HTC changed it so it is a different shape. I guess I figured I could just cut off that end and it would be same as any USB cable. I didn't want to go into the jack itself where the headphone and power is.
cooldrewb said:
I already have the 3.5mm headphone jack and the power connected. My only problem is the end that plugs into the phone. Instead of making a standard mini USB HTC changed it so it is a different shape. I guess I figured I could just cut off that end and it would be same as any USB cable. I didn't want to go into the jack itself where the headphone and power is.
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They changed the jack because it won't work in a USB plug - it has 11 pins (5 for USB power/sync and 6 for audio). You can extend it either way, but it takes 11 wires to extend it. I have a similar setup in my car, so I understand where you're coming from, but aside from extending the cable I've not seen a better solution...
What a pain. What really stinks is I only need to go about 8 inches.

Making my own car charger

ive got a passive Brodit, and a extusb splitter and want to wire in a charger. Can i use my sync cable, chop the usb plug and wire it into the 12v from my radio? Asuuming not to be honest, it must need a transformer to step it down to 5v? Anyone know where i can find a pinout diagram of the sync cable supplied with the Kaiser?
buy a car invertor from aldi £14 they come with 240v step down and usb..sorted .no chopping or soldering needed.also runs your laptop ect...

USB Charger cable ID pin resistor - need help from someone with a multimeter

Hey guys,
As we know Atom doesn't charge with other chargers while it's on, unless you hack a cable to connect miniusb ID pin to gnd.
I've lost my charger. Does anybody know or can test to see the resistance value of the ID pin? Some call it 'pin 4' on mini-usb, but actually it doesn't have a number and the next pin is numbered 4
The ID pin may be directly connected to GND, or may have a resistor between gnd. I need to know it to make/find a more original-like cable.
Also, does anybody know how HP rw68xx handles this with a charger with unpluggable usb cable? Does it require using a special cable with modified mini usb socket for wall charger? Cause there is no equivalent pin for the ID pin, on a standard usb socket, so probably there is no identification function on the charger.
Edit:
I'll try to locate a working cable / usb-miniusb adapter on dealextreme, if you know a specific item which should work, that would be even better.
Thanks

[Q] Nook USB Cord & Power Adapter

1) Is there a difference between the Original Nook power adapter and the NST one (as far as power output)?
2) Will the nook usb power cord work the same as a generic micro usb cable? I know for instance the nook color cable has extra pins in it to provide more power.
Thanks!
Don't know about comparisons to the original Nook, but the USB cable provided with the Nook Touch is just a standard micro-USB cable. The Nook Touch doesn't need as much power as the Nook Color does.
dpippin said:
1) I know for instance the nook color cable has extra pins in it to provide more power.
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There are no extra pins.
However, as per the USB spec, the center two pins are shorted* together, indicating that the charger is a 'high current' device. Otherwise the device you are charging will assume it's connected to a pc usb port and limit power draw to ~500mA.
*either directly shorted or through a resistor
*There are extra pins.
An OTG (USB On-the-Go) micro USB cable has the fifth pin near the ground.
It is shorted to ground directly at the connector to indicate possible host usage.
This has absolutely nothing to do with charging though.
bobkoure said:
There are no extra pins.
However, as per the USB spec, the center two pins are shorted* together, indicating that the charger is a 'high current' device. Otherwise the device you are charging will assume it's connected to a pc usb port and limit power draw to ~500mA.
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The NC micro USB cable does have extra pins. This was verified through a physical examination of a NC cable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1090504

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