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is there a way you can send DMTF with the JAM like in most nokia phone if not all

They say that if you switch off sound when you press buttons, DTMF tones are sent correctly. There was such a reply in this forum. Sorry, I don't remember the author

DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.

bamse said:
DTMF is no problem with my device even with sound/tones active when pressing the buttons.
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It was not good on mine - T-Mobile MDA Compact. In some cases the other side did not show reaction on incoming tones. With the sounds set to "off" it became fine.

do one of you guys know, how i can store these dtmf tones? for example i you've got a mailbox where you have to enter a code for access. the easiest way(you don't have to remebmer the code) is to store the phone number incl the dtmf tones in the phonebook. like nokia does it, e.g. +49323244322p1234
after the p is the access code.
do you know a way how to do this with the magician?
thx in advance

simple. create a contact with the dial string. assing a speed dial and you're good to go.
111-2222,,,,1233
each comma makes the phone wait a few seconds before inputting the 1233 string.
Hope that helps.

cool thx. its working.

It is the same as Nokia
You can also do with the magician as with any other phone. The Pause digit ("p") is a standard convention. If you use it in a number in a Nokia phone, the phone will wait for the other end of the call to "pick up", and then will send the remaining characters as DTMF.
Same on the Magician. You should have just tried.
The use of commas is also standard and works in all phones, but it just makes a 1-second pause, which is not very reliable for the first DTMF sequence after "pick-up". In fact, due to line coverage, 4 commas might work one time, but not the other time. "P" works all the time.
On my Magician phone book I actually have very long sequences of DTMF, to check various types of voicemails, or use calling cards. I always use "p" after the main number, after that the use of p or comma is the same, it's always 1 second.

the "p" doens't work with my mda compact.
the , is okay but p not.
i tired before, otherwise i wouldn't ask

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That's really strange!!!! Could it be that MDA's have got a different dialler (my Magician is i-mate)?

inserting pauses for Wing speed dialing

No one at T-Mobile has the answer and HTC tech support referred me here. I dial my office voice mail maybe 10-15 times a day. On my Sprint phone I was able to insert pauses in the dialing. It would dial the number, pause for the voice command, add a string of numbers, pause for the next voice command, and finally put in my password. So I could press 3, for example, and it would take me all the way through to my messages. So far I can not find a way to put in the pauses on the Wing. So I have to press 3 and then wait for the voice command, and then manually put in the next string of numbers, then wait again for the next voice command, and then put in the password. This is time consuming and impossible to do while driving. Anyone know if it can be done on the Wing? If so, how? Thanks, Tom

I have not tried it on the Wing... But try just putting a comma "," in the dialing string... Should work.... Does on all my other phones......

Commas
I tried this. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I don't think so. In my contacts I go to the phone number. Here is the string I use (with x's for most of the numbers): 1802xxxxxxx,,,#802xxxxxxx,,,xxxxxx
I have this as a speed dial and also as a T-Mobile Fav. Any way I try to dial it it only dials the 1802xxxxxxx and then stops.

There is no way to insert pauses
I have now been told by someone who seems to know at T-Mobile that the Wing has no way to insert pauses into a contact phone number. To me this is a near fatal flaw. It means that if I call my office voice mail 5-10 times a day I have to type 16 extra digits (which includes my phone number and my password) each time I try to get my messages. Oh well.

Tom H said:
I have now been told by someone who seems to know at T-Mobile that the Wing has no way to insert pauses into a contact phone number. To me this is a near fatal flaw. It means that if I call my office voice mail 5-10 times a day I have to type 16 extra digits (which includes my phone number and my password) each time I try to get my messages. Oh well.
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I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...

P's don't work for me
malixsys said:
I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
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Tried it on the Wing but no luck. When I dial with the P's added, the dialing never gets past the first string of numbers. On the dialing screen there are no P's and nothing past the first string. This is true for comma's also. When I tried it with ***'s it did appear, these did appear on the dialing screen of the Wing when I dialed but the call clicked off without dialing with the message, "Call Ended." One thing I noticed is that Outlook takes anything after the first string of numbers and puts the rest under "Extension" and puts an x before it. But I'm having the problem even if I enter the number only on the Wing and not in Outlook.

My mistake -- p's work and also commas
malixsys said:
I have 'p' as a pause digit and it works fine to call my voice mail for example...
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Yes! I see what I was doing wrong. A comma or a "p" both work fine. Thanks for the help.
One problem remains: I have this number as one of My Fav's, and if I dial it using My Fav, it doesn't do the pauses. I think I have to wait until July 1 and refresh the My Fav. -- I hope.

And what have you done wrong? (Just to solve this one exactly)

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And what have you done wrong? (Just to solve this one exactly)
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At least this: When did the speed dial (after inserting the pauses), at least a few times I did not wait long enough for the pause to kick in. On my Sprint phone I think it happened quicker with more pauses (I think), and I was used to have it happen quickly.
The Call Ended message that kept happening may possibly have been due to being out of a service area, but I tested at the time and other calls were going through, so I'm not sure what happened.
Finally, I haven't synced it back with my desktop yet. I hope the Outlook on the desktop doesn't screw things up.
One more thing if it is useful: T-Mobile has these My Fav's. If I dial using the speed dial or directly from the number itself, it is working. But if I dial directly from the My Fav's it does not insert the pause. I think the reason is that I uploaded the My Fav number to T-Mobile before I put in all the pauses, so T-Mobile must have it and be using it without the pauses. On the first of the month I intend to upload it again with the pauses and see if that will work. Hope so.
Thanks, Tom

we can also use a 'w' to insert a wait
along with the 'p' for pause, a 'w' can also be used to insert a wait. That would be useful when you are not sure how long to pause and want control of when to send the rest of the DTMF sequence. If you insert a 'w', you have to keep pressing the Green Call button and it will keep sending the DTMF sequence till the next 'w' in the number.
I use that very frequently to dial international phone numbers with different calling cards.

a w may work on the wing, most current android phones it seems like a ";" is whats required for the wait tone. also a comma is used for pause (3 seconds)but the easiest way i found to do it is by simply pressing the menu button while in the dialpad screen, it will pop up with options to add wait's or pause's

mystery bug -using an access code to dial internationally - TouchHD/WM6.1

Hello,
I often use an access code to dial internationally, and once I am connected to that access number, I have to enter the number of the person I am calling.
I have an HTC Touch HD with WM6.1pro and cannot find a way to do it. If I connect to the access number, then at the prompt go to my address book and dial a second number, it assumes I want to have two separate calls and puts the access code on Hold... which is not what I want! I do not remember all my friend's numbers, so I do have to use the address book.
With my old nokia n95, once connected I could go to the menu and say I want to dial a DTMF which is the tone you hear when dialing a normal phone. This allows me to follow on with calling the number I need while connected to the call.
Is there a way of doing this on WM6?
I have a kind of work around. I edit my international friends phone numbers as a "car phone" and the numbers look like this
02081802828 p 0027115555555
the access code, then I add p to pause then their number.
The HUGE problem is that when I dial any of my international contacts, the phone displays the same person... so no matter who I call internationally, it always shows a photo of my friend Ian, and displays his name instead of the person I am actually speaking to. I think this is a bug where WM6.1 only looks at the first 11 characters of a number, but the problem is, all my intl numbers have the same first 11 numbers.
Help MUCH appreciated, thanks,
Mark.

livegod said:
Hello,
I often use an access code to dial internationally, and once I am connected to that access number, I have to enter the number of the person I am calling.
I have an HTC Touch HD with WM6.1pro and cannot find a way to do it. If I connect to the access number, then at the prompt go to my address book and dial a second number, it assumes I want to have two separate calls and puts the access code on Hold... which is not what I want! I do not remember all my friend's numbers, so I do have to use the address book.
With my old nokia n95, once connected I could go to the menu and say I want to dial a DTMF which is the tone you hear when dialing a normal phone. This allows me to follow on with calling the number I need while connected to the call.
Is there a way of doing this on WM6?
I have a kind of work around. I edit my international friends phone numbers as a "car phone" and the numbers look like this
02081802828 p 0027115555555
the access code, then I add p to pause then their number.
The HUGE problem is that when I dial any of my international contacts, the phone displays the same person... so no matter who I call internationally, it always shows a photo of my friend Ian, and displays his name instead of the person I am actually speaking to. I think this is a bug where WM6.1 only looks at the first 11 characters of a number, but the problem is, all my intl numbers have the same first 11 numbers.
Help MUCH appreciated, thanks,
Mark.
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Don't know if it will work... but you coud try (using Advanced Config) to increase the number of digits used to "match" the numbers in the contacts... for example to 18 or 19 numbers... but I cannot immagine what other "consequencies"could happen...
Let us know !
Regards,
K

Hi Kostas
It seems that the problem is actually with spb Mobile Shell and not windows mobile.
When I dial using the windows mobile dialler, it gets the name and picture right, but when I use spb's dialler it shows the wrong person and name...
I will chase it up with them... and thanks for the good idea, unfortunately the Call ID Match does not help the problem.
Efgaristo!
Mark.

+ plus before numbers

when i make a call from my contacts the telephone ads a + plus sign. how i can disable it?
if i dial a number and send. the + is not added.
i have tried disabling assited dial. but i still get the +
i use the imagio only on GSM

What's the plus?
The plus "+" is used to distinguish the country code of the phone number. Most in the US don't normally think about it. This is especially true since the country code for the US is "1" and the "1" is what you used to add from your land line to make a long distance call.
Don't sweat the addition and in fact get used to it. On your mobile phone you should always include the full phone number (including area code) for all your contacts and calls. You don't have the same concept of "long distance" calls on your mobile phone. Where you are is your calling location and this obviously varies.
For your contacts, get used to seeing the addition of the +1 for US phones. When making calls you can include it or not if you are in the US and calling someone in the US. In the US you should always use 10 digit numbers when you dial.
So in the US you don't need to use "1" to prefix a number to call "long distance" but you do need to use "+1" to call a US number if you are in a different country when you make the call.
(Someone is bound to point out that Canada also uses +1. I didn't include that above but you could substitute "USA and Canada" where I used "US")

How to disable this function, can anybody say? It do not let to make call in my country to contacts, just call if typing number manualy 8700... etc.

use a registry editor and set HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\PlusCodeDialing\PlusCodeEnable to 0.

2bawaji Thanks for help.
Another problem appear: when I change registry key vaue and restart phone it restart himself after verizon logo. I fix it by hard reset, but what i do wrong?
Mat be needs some other changes in registry?

Was it set to 1 before you changed it to 0? I notice that in the post above, the key is listed as "Plu sCodeEnable" and not "PlusCodeEnable" that I originally typed. There should be no space between the u and the s.
I regularly change the above key from 1 to 0 and back when I travel. I have not had the restart happen. I am using Energy ROM which does not have Assisted Dialing. You may want to try this with Assisted Dialing turned off and see if that makes a difference. Can't think of anything else.

+ sign in front of incoming calls.

Hi,
I posted this on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49978192
as I was utterly ignored (probably my fault) I am reposting here, hopefuly is both the right place and it gets the right visibility.
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I am sure if this relates to this post, but as I unlocked the phone using this method I hope someone else can help.
I follow the steps listed here to unlock the phone and I am using it with NET10 in USA. My SPH-L720 has a NET10 card in it and I am connected to their network (No LTE, but the internet is still fast enough). I also changed the method listed here to change the phone number listed on settings ##MLS# and enter the number on both fields.
At this point everything works on the phone except for a really annoying detail.
Every call I get (and these are local US calls, not international) has a + (plus sign) at the front.
this is triggering two problems
1- the number shown on the caller id of the incoming call does not always match a number on my phone book. This is a problem as I don't know who is calling.
2- if I dial back, to call the number who called me, the call does not go through.
Now, if I go to the address book I can call any saved number.
The SIMM card i put on this S4 came from a Galaxy S2, which was working perfectly (not having these issues) - (I had to cut it to make it a micro)
At this point the only solution I have found is to use a program called Prefixer (apk) which will change the first character of every outgoing call to a +1. This of course will force me to edit every number on my phonebook and add the + (as otherwise prefixer will be changing any "first" character into a +1). I do have a lot of numbers
I wonder if someone can come up with a solution which does not involve something like this.
I hope the issue is understood, it has taken me three days to explain it to the NET10 team, and all they always asked was if I needed to make an international call (retards) :/
Thanks for all the help.

This is my work around so far, but I wish I could find a native solution to the problem
1- I exported all my contacts from google and fixed all the number in my address book only to include area code and number (no other symbols or spaces, etc) as in 305765342
2 downloaded: Prefixer from 253°Below (sorry I am new, can't post links)
I programmed two incoming and two outgoing rules using regular expressions to remove the + and +1 in front of numbers
The only annoying thing is that that app vibrates and provides a notification everytime one of the rules is triggered.
I wonder if anyone has a better idea on how to fix this.
Thanks