GPRS is connected by itself, why? - Networking

I have a weird problem I would like to share with you guys, may be someone knows the cause and can help explaining this to me.
I have set on my XDA to sync to the Exchange Server via the GPRS link manually, for both peak and non-peak timing.
Usually after finish synching, I always disconnect the GPRS connection immediately.
But I noticed that ActivSync always initiates the GPRS connection later by itself 15 minutes after I disconnect the previous session. Formerly I did not know what program actually initiate the GPRS connection, but then I found out that it was the ActivSync that did that, from the time shown, when the last time it was synced to the Exchange server. And, after that "undesired" session, it never disconnect the GPRS session.
So, I always find my XDA connected to the GPRS network, even though I had make sure I disconnect right after I finish synching.
This only happens with my XDA which runs the WM 2003.
My other PPC, Universal, does not have this problem.

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GPRS Connection

I have an O2 XDA and I have just had GPRS enabled and it all works fine.
I thought it would be possible to leave inbox running and every 15 minutes it would connect to GPRS, download e-mails and then disconnect but it won't work.
If I connect manually to GPRS then it works but I have to leave the connection open all the time which drains the battery.
Is it possible to do what I want with Inbox or is there another piece of software that will do it instead.
Thanks
Stuart Frost

Problem with reconnecting with GPRS

I find that if I leave a GPRS connection on when I'm finished accessing the internet and it gets disconnected because of network problems, that I have to soft-reset the machine to reconnect. Manually disconnecting after each session solves the problem but makes GPRS less always-on. Though I've found GPRS rarely keeps the connection for long periods. Anybody else come across this problem?
BTW I'm using PPC 2002
Re-connecting GPRS
I find the same issue. When connected to a GPRS session and I either make or receive a call I lose the GPRS connection but need to do a soft boot before re-establishing a GPRS session. I have reied everything but no joy. I think a ROM upgtade is due in Jan but not sure if this will address this problem. Let me know if you have solve it.
Kevin

GPRS disconnect )-:

Hi,
I'm using xda 2.
when I open the GPRS connection manually, it stay connected until I disconnect it.
When the connection is open automatically (when I use the internet explorer, or using any other application that use a gprs connection) the connection disconnect if I don't use the device for a minute or two.
If I continue to use the device, the connection don't disconnect.
Is there any setting that will prevent the device to disconnect.
I develop application that should synchronize to SQL server, the synchronization takes 15-30 minutes, during this time the user don't use the device...
thanks,
Ofer
Ive got the same problem.
Im using my Qtek 2020 as a Wmodem for my laptop for the moment.
If i connect, i disconnects after a few minutes and there is no speed.
But if i softreset the device and reconnect to the modem, everything works fine for a couple of hours. Then it disconnects, and i have to softreset again to make it work...
Really annoying, and took me quite a WHILE to figure out how to get it to work.
Would be very nice to know that kind of ****ed up bug this is..
Sounds like you need GPRS Tweak (freeware)
http://www.gb-soft.cz/xdaii/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm
Thanx, i think it works.. Just installed it, and put it on GPRS always ON
GPRS Tweak
I also installed GPRS Tweak but when I perform a soft-reset it don't start GPRS automaticly.
What have I done wrong?
Ger
Go to the second settings tab, there u have som settings for GPRS starting.
Although, this program didnt fix my problem. I still have to reboot everytime
i have used GPRS for 2 hours. For some reason, it resets GPRS after a random set of time... Really annoying.

GPRS and ActiveSync trying to connect

For the last two days, when I connect my K-JAM to a computer, ActiveSync connects. After a few minutes, GPRS connects, but not really.
ActiveSync looks like it is syncing, but it is not sending any records. Email accounts are not updating because it isn't really connected to AS or to GPRS, so neither works. I can also use PocketController (which uses ActiveSync) and I can explorer the K-JAM during this time.
This happened when I first got it and I don't remember how I fixed it.
Any thoughts?
Once connected to the Pc you wont be able to access the net via GPRS on your wizard. Regarding the problem of active sync not actually doing anything, have you ever performed a successful sychronisation, if not it could be that your firewall is interfering.
Do post a follow up and shall see what further can be suggested.
rgs
Jim
Yes, I have been syncing for a month with the K-JAM.
Unfortunately, that is the problem. I am not trying to connect to GPRS, I would rather use AS when connected tot he PC. It looks like it is connected to both, but in reality it is connected to neither. I have to disconnect, turn off the GPRS (which starts working when not connected to the PC) and then reconnect. I can then sync and within a few minutes the GPRS comes back. And it stays in the "in between" mode where neither connection works.
I don't recall installing anything new...doesn't mean I didn't though...perhaps something that is set to connect but isn't smart enough to use the ActiveSync connection?
It does that on my work PC and my home PC, so I am assuming it is something on the K-JAM and not something in the PCs. Both are running AS 4.1.
I know I had this before and did somethign to resolve it...but for the life of me I can't remember what I did.

Microsoft Direct Push - Question

Hi, I'm using WM6.0
I have several question about Microsoft Direct Push, I greatly appreciate if anyone can answer these questions:
I just setup a direct push through my company's exchange server. Everything works fine but I don't get it:
1. I set my Activesync to sync "As items arrive". Then GRPS will start and start sync'ing with exchange but it will stay on and won't disconnect. Is this normal? GPRS is very expensive in my country, I can't afford to have it on all the time.
2. If I disconnect GPRS and close Activesync, when I reopen it, the configuration of Activesync changes from "As items arrive" back to "Manually" > is this normal?
3. If I set it as "Manually" and close the Activesync and disconnect GPRS and try to send an email to myself. It will not push the email like I expected. I have to either go to COMManager and click on "Microsoft Direct Push", which will turn on my GPRS and will make it stay connected to GPRS.
4. If I use WiFi and send an email to myself, I will not get push email. Unless if I go to Activesync and press "SYNC"
5. If I use BT connection to my laptop and start Activesync. It will only sync with server when Activesync sync'ing with computer.
6. Why does Direct Push doesn't work like a Direct Push, it's more like a Direct Pull to me? I always thought that Direct Push meaning that it will connect to GPRS and retrieve an email and disconnect. JUST LIKE MMS.
7. Is there a way to make it a real Direct Push? like it will connect to GPRS only when I'm about to receive an email. Or it will push the email when I'm connected to WiFi?
Thank you for your help. Any comment or any explanation will do. If anyone has a website that explains this, it'll be great also. I have done researches as usual before I post this email but I can't find any answer.
Thx again
Direct Push and 3G-GPRS
Hi,
Same problem and same question about direct push.
I bought a tytn with WM5 to Orange (France). With VM5, the synchronisation is ok with usb and GPRS / 3G also : The 3G goes up as soon as the usb is disconnected and falls down as soon as USB is re-connected up.
With USB, the scheduling is about 5 mns. With 3G this is really "As items arrive".
Today I use WM6 (schap' s 3.54b) with ROM radio 1.51.00.10. The difference with WM5 is the following: 3G / GPRS with pushmail is ok, but when I connect up the usb, the 3G connection remains active, but I think that it is not used by activesync. I'm not sure.
I think that the directpush works only with the 3G, never with wifi, bluetooth or usb.
However, I do not know what has an influence on connection. Is this WM6, the version of protocol or the version of ROM radio? I have not found any doc yet.
If you have any suggestion...
thanks too
Yes, I read from somewhere that push mail will not work over WiFi or USB. When you are using WiFi or USB, you must click SYNC manually to sync with exchange. It will not push the mail.
I hate that fact that the GPRS won't disconnect after getting an email. MMS works that why, why can't push mail be that way?
GPRS is very expensive in Singapore. I wouldn't use it for Push Mail. I just have to make sure that it's doing it manually not "AS ITEMS ARRIVE". That will hurt my pocket and kill me slowly with bills.
A simple explanation would be necessary...
What is push mail ?
Push mail is when the server send a signal to your device so the latest can sync an retrieve any new event signaled. What it means is your device must be reachable from the outside world : your device NEEDS an IP address.
So yes, GPRS (EGDE, 3G, whatever...) needs to be activated all the time, or else the server won't know how to send a signal to your device.
This is like asking someone to send you some package without giving him the address...
You can replace the GPRS with a Wifi link, btw it would need to be always on, and I mean real ON, not the device falling a sleep. The PDA would run out of power in less than 2 hours.
Via Activesync ? Good try. Unfortunally although the device has an IP address, this one is not reachable outside from the computer. Only Activesync classical synchronisation can do the job.
Hope this help.
foxenesys said:
A simple explanation would be necessary...
What is push mail ?
Push mail is when the server send a signal to your device so the latest can sync an retrieve any new event signaled. What it means is your device must be reachable from the outside world : your device NEEDS an IP address.
So yes, GPRS (EGDE, 3G, whatever...) needs to be activated all the time, or else the server won't know how to send a signal to your device.
This is like asking someone to send you some package without giving him the address...
You can replace the GPRS with a Wifi link, btw it would need to be always on, and I mean real ON, not the device falling a sleep. The PDA would run out of power in less than 2 hours.
Via Activesync ? Good try. Unfortunally although the device has an IP address, this one is not reachable outside from the computer. Only Activesync classical synchronisation can do the job.
Hope this help.
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Then, how can you explain how MMS work? How can the GPRS turn on automatically when there is an MMS and disconnects after it finishes downloading the MMS?
Doesn't Blackberry do that?
bankir said:
Then, how can you explain how MMS work? How can the GPRS turn on automatically when there is an MMS and disconnects after it finishes downloading the MMS?
Doesn't Blackberry do that?
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For blackberry, you need a gateway to format all messages from exchange to cell phone.
Only to supplement explanation: The pda opens a session via the 3G on exchange server.The channel is so supported opened. At the arrival of a message exchange point out in the pda that he must synchronize. Then it is the habitual process activesync...
But i don't know why the 3G connection isn't disconnected when i plug the craddle. May be the version of protocole version ?
Blackberry also has an always on GPRS connection/

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